Comments Thread For: Froch Details Why DeGale Makes No Sense, Chavez Does

[Box-Office]

DeGale is getting the shot no matter what so it doesn't really matter if he fights Froch or not.

Froch fought Groves who was his mandatory. So he's not "pulling a Calzaghe". No one would fight DeGale over Chavez Jr on HBO PPV in Vegas.

Froch was not the only mandatory Calzaghe ever had. He also fought Mario Veit, so I can turn this around and say Groves was his Veit.

Froch has at best 2 fights left, so it is a very similar situation where he wants to maximize career earnings, but yet has a mandatory pending.

[IronDanHamza]

Degale is the IBF mandatory. Froch should fight him or vacate the title, simple as that.

Also what had Groves done to get a Froch fight?

Nothing but get a mandatory shot.

Fighting Groves was Froch's version of when he was mandatory for Calzaghe.

[IronDanHamza]

Froch was not the only mandatory Calzaghe ever had. He also fought Mario Veit, so I can turn this around and say Groves was his Veit.

Froch has at best 2 fights left, so it is a very similar situation where he wants maximize career earnings, but yet has a mandatory pending.

In what logical way can you say "it's his Veit"?

Froch-Calzaghe would have been a domestic clash with bad blood, an unknown contender vs the long reigning Champion.

That's literally exactly what Froch-Groves was.

Froch has already done what Calzaghe wouldn't.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Is "Pull a Calzaghe" meant to be a derogatory thing?

Calzaghe fought Bernard Hopkins for the Light-Heavyweight Championship in Vegas instead of defending his belt against an unknown Froch.

[alexKO]

Oh,a shot Jones and Lacy? Wow how did I forget to rate that?!

You just said it yourself he has a better resume. And he clearly does.

Lacy was regarded as a 168lb Mike Tyson before facing Calzaghe so don't try and discredit that win. In terms of perceived danger before the fight, I'd hold that in higher regard than Frochs win over Bute, which many would say is one of Froch top 3 wins.

Resume is great but it also helps to heat the people you fight - unfortunately for Froch he lost clearly to Kessler and Ward. Yes, the same Kessler who, in his prime, lost to a declining Calzaghe. Can you honestly say you believe that a prime Froch beats a prime Calzaghe?!

[Rostov Papa]

Degale is the IBF mandatory. Froch should fight him or vacate the title, simple as that.

Also what had Groves done to get a Froch fight?

I agree about vacating his title. Unfortunately, the title ranking systems are BS, and more about promotional power, and generating money than actually ranking boxers. Because no poll should have DeFAIL as the top challenger for a title. None. So Froch has no choice but to play by the rules, and vacate his title.

Doesn't matter if he has the belt or not...

What did Groves do? Beat Defail... Defail is the ginger's son until proven otherwise... i.e. he needs to be calling out Groves for a rematch...

If Defail can beat his father in a rematch, then we can talk about a Froch fight. Until then, he needs to be calling out Groves.

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Lacy was regarded as a 168lb Mike Tyson before facing Calzaghe so don't try and discredit that win. In terms of perceived danger before the fight, I'd hold that in higher regard than Frochs win over Bute, which many would say is one of Froch top 3 wins.

Resume is great but it also helps to heat the people you fight - unfortunately for Froch he lost clearly to Kessler and Ward. Yes, the same Kessler who, in his prime, lost to a declining Calzaghe. Can you honestly say you believe that a prime Froch beats a prime Calzaghe?!

He didn't clearly lose to Kessler, he lost a close decision that could've gone either way. I'd also argue that it was a more prime Kessler than the green version that Joe fought in Wales.

Lacy was hyped up to the max by the yanks, who was his best win before he faced Calzaghe? A shot Robin Reid? At least Bute had some solid wins behind him like Bika & Johnson.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I agree about vacating his title. Unfortunately, the title ranking systems are BS, and more about promotional power, and generating money than actually ranking boxers. Because no poll should have DeFAIL as the top challenger for a title. None. So Froch has no choice but to play by the rules, and vacate his title.

Doesn't matter if he has the belt or not...

What did Groves do? Beat Defail... Defail is the ginger's son until proven otherwise... i.e. he needs to be calling out Groves for a rematch...

If Defail can beat his father in a rematch, then we can talk about a Froch fight. Until then, he needs to be calling out Groves.

DeGale has been calling out Groves for the rematch ever since Ugly Kid got that sympathy decision in the first fight you mong!

[Dirk Diggler UK]

He didn't clearly lose to Kessler, he lost a close decision that could've gone either way. I'd also argue that it was a more prime Kessler than the green version that Joe fought in Wales.

Green?

Kessler had almost 40 fights and was unified world champion

Green

[Rostov Papa]

He didn't clearly lose to Kessler, he lost a close decision that could've gone either way. I'd also argue that it was a more prime Kessler than the green version that Joe fought in Wales.

Lacy was hyped up to the max by the yanks, who was his best win before he faced Calzaghe? A shot Robin Reid? At least Bute had some solid wins behind him like Bika & Johnson.

Ay bruv - check your message board on your profile. Could you please send me the video link to your gif in your sig?

Haha that is the epitome of TWO SWEET HOOKS!

And answers the question I've seen asked on here regarding whether or not you can throw a back-hand hook! That settles that question!