New Ring P4P rankings: Wladimir Klitschko moved up to #2

[-Kev-]

When ranking fighters as if weight isn't a factor, how can a case be made that Wladimir Klitschko is the second best boxer on the planet?

There currently isn't a single heavyweight that should be anywhere near a P4P list, let alone number 2.

If Wlad was not there, the HW division would all of a sudden become "hot" and "rich with talent". Truth is Wlad is a great boxer and he's keeping any potential "HW great" from becoming great.

[DeadLikeMe]

If Wlad was not there, the HW division would all of a sudden become "hot" and "rich with talent". Truth is Wlad is a great boxer and he's keeping any potential "HW great" from becoming great.

That's what I always think when I hear about how dead the heavyweight division is. If Wlad were out of the picutre we'd be hearing about what a "hot" and "stacked" division it is.

[bojangles1987]

That's what I always think when I hear about how dead the heavyweight division is. If Wlad were out of the picutre we'd be hearing about what a "hot" and "stacked" division it is.

I don't believe that at all. It'd be a bad division with no one very good, the same way LHW was considered before this year and the same way MW has been considered for a while now.

Bad divisions are bad divisions, "competition" doesn't change that and wouldn't if Wlad wasn't there right now. No one is loving all the terrible fights that are close between the contenders there right now.

[Cleto_Reyes]

good to see roman getting his props

[crold1]

I don't believe that at all. It'd be a bad division with no one very good, the same way LHW was considered before this year and the same way MW has been considered for a while now.

Bad divisions are bad divisions, "competition" doesn't change that and wouldn't if Wlad wasn't there right now. No one is loving all the terrible fights that are close between the contenders there right now.

I agree. This gets to the debate about what these silly lists should be in terms of weighing talent, accomplishment, and the imaginary what if they were all relatively the same size question.

Wlad is a great Heavyweight( top ten AT IMO) I don't think his game is as well rounded as the best men in smaller divisions but works very well given the reality of his talents and class. A guy with shaky whiskers, limited counter punching ability, zero infighting ability, but great jab and power can get a ways but that doesn't come close to ruling in the current Welterweight or Fly class (as examples). It just wouldn't. That's wny Wlad would never rate that high for me P4P

[The Big Dunn]

If Wlad was not there, the HW division would all of a sudden become "hot" and "rich with talent". Truth is Wlad is a great boxer and he's keeping any potential "HW great" from becoming great.

That's what I always think when I hear about how dead the heavyweight division is. If Wlad were out of the picutre we'd be hearing about what a "hot" and "stacked" division it is.

I disagree. Take wlad out. Deontay wilder, Aeereola, pulev, fury, stivernne.

The division would be "hot" only because everyone is equally limited and anyone could be defeated on any night. Like the NFC south in football right now.

That's not the same "hot" as say the FW division where there are a lot of talented fighters that could beat each other. Like the AFC North.

[Fetta]

Good. Hes been dominant for years and holds every major title, and the lesser ones too, except for the WBC which was vacated by his brother.

[crold1]

good to see roman getting his props

Roman is no worse than the 2nd or 3rd best in the world.

[IronDanHamza]

Roman is no worse than the 2nd or 3rd best in the world.

He just sc****s my Top 10.

[sicko]

Wouldn't put him over Pacquiao but he is Top 3 For Sure

Ward Shouldn't "DROP" he should be REMOVED ENTIRELY from the Ranking because it has been a year now since he fought. When he fights again then he gets his spot back!