Comments Thread For: Arum, CBS CEO Set Meeting on Mayweather-Pacquiao

[bigjavi973]

Floyd is smart enough to hire Al Haymon, who does know contracts. You don't know me. I signed a contract once, and fulfilled it for 21 in the U.S. Navy. You're preaching accountability to the wrong guy kid! Manny is the biggest fight, but not the only fight, and trust me, Manny needs Floyd way more than Floyd needs Manny. Everyone is saying pressure needs to be on Floyd, but someone needs to put the pressure on Arum to step aside and let this fight happen.

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[Beater_of_ass]

dont try that **** with me

"Name a stadium that held 45k people at the time?" that was your statement. I gave you my reply about chavez having an attendance record of over 100k people. Either way, what makes more money, 15k or 45-50k attendance?

I'm not trying anything, I just don't live in your head. When you name two black American fighters, I don't think Mexico. You took my question to literal, because I was thinking US only. Maybe I should have replied with don't try that **** with me when you did it bringing up a stadium out of the country. You know which would draw more? The 18k people inside the MGM, do you know why? Because there are 18k people in this country with enough income to spend on nosebleeds what the tickets ringside would cost for a temporary stadium. You aren't selling 50k tickets by saying Manny vs Floyd, in the dirt with a folding chair.

Someone will pay 100k for front row seats to that fight in the front row if they get the best suite available and MGM owns a lot of resorts in Vegas to choose from. I live in town man, there is a different mentality for Vegas than a fight at MSG. You get perks like food, luxury rooms, ****ing VISTAS for **** sake, a mini-mansion if you will. They attract people not just from the States but because of Manny we're talking the rich from the US AND Asia. The pockets out there are deep and they can charge normal people $100 to watch it on TV and rich fools 100k to watch it live and it would happen. I would expect the nosebleeds to sell for 5k for that fight if it were at MGM by the way.

[arraamis]

Seems like a lot is going on without Floyd. Might wanna make sure he is on board before all of these discussions take place...ya know, since he is one of the principle characters in this whole thing

Yeah, you think?!?! Somebody needs to remind Bob "The Snake" Arum that he is repeating old history.

[bigjavi973]

I'm not trying anything, I just don't live in your head. When you name two black American fighters, I don't think Mexico. You took my question to literal, because I was thinking US only. Maybe I should have replied with don't try that **** with me when you did it bringing up a stadium out of the country. You know which would draw more? The 18k people inside the MGM, do you know why? Because there are 18k people in this country with enough income to spend on nosebleeds what the tickets would cost for a temporary stadium. You aren't selling 50k tickets by saying Manny vs Floyd, in the dirt with a folding.

Someone will pay 100k for front row seats to that fight in the front row if they get the best suite available and MGM owns a lot of resorts in Vegas to choose from. I live in town man, there is a different mentality for Vegas than a fight at MSG. They attract people not just from the States but because of Manny we're talking the rich from the US AND Asia. The pockets are very deep my friend temporary doesn't cut it out here.

bringing racist comments in here? either way you NEVER said to black americans, you said, to mention fights with that many people. Fights in the uk draw at least 25k in stadiums.

[Carmaine]

Forget May. They should fight on July 4th(falls on a Saturday). Call the fight "Fireworks" and purposely have Manny/Floyd use Katy Perry's song Fireworks as their entrance music. LOLOLOLOL

[IMDAZED]

Where you getting this PPV revenue? The 1 million buys is the PPV revenue man. That's it, you can add money to the gate, Floyd doesn't get all that, serioulsy? You think the casino pays a site fee and then says "Oh, by the way keep the money from everyone who comes in our casino."? You mentioned marketing... that's something you get money from, you pay for all those commercials and it's not cheap. My wife works in marketing that **** is not cheap... a 30 second spot on an NBA game (depending teams) is 500k-1million. It's now about 5 million for the Super Bowl... putting up those billboards, buses, the sign on the MGM everything costs a pretty penny and you have to pay people and that's well known tho come out of Floyds pocket.

That's what Floyd does best, is the marketing and the reason his fee is so high. He does all the marketing of himself and his fights. It saves Showtime money but it costs Floyd money, as for the sponsors... Floyd doesn't have any. Golden Boy was doing all the sponsoring, not Floyd. They had deals with Golden Boy promotions, not Floyd Mayweather. These are all things Haymon... well not Haymon because he's an advisor, but whoever promotes Floyd has to do.

Anyway, it's obvious Showtime is losing money or not even that but as I stated these are some wealthy people we're talking about. They don't deal with losses, break evens or even small profits, these people want to see double on their investment to make it worth it, at least 50%. You added in extra PPV money from nowhere, then talk about international fee's etc... but that isn't Floyd who does that, it's Showtime and for all we know could very well be part of Floyds $32 million. The contract could very well say $32 million including international sales and a piece of PPV after a million. The fact is we don't know, but what we do know is based off US numbers it doesn't add up. Showtime didn't make this deal and say "Eh, Floyd's an American let's see how well his buys were in Russia, China and Australia bought the fought before passing judgement. No one ever talked about that **** when Floyd fought Canelo, Oscar and Cotto.

I come back from lunch to read this rambling. I don't even know where to begin. First, it's nice to know your wife works in marketing. So do I, in finance specifically. Let's speak in layman terms. For starters, you're asking questions that have nothing to do with what I wrote. Who said Floyd gets all that money? The question is whether or not Showtime needs the PPV to go over 1m in sales in order to break even. Second, you don't know what Mayweather pays for marketing or what cross promotion takes place between the parent network, etc. what the relationships are, etc. And that's the point. You don't know. Now, what was the point of what you wrote? To say Floyd doesn't get all that money? No ****.

[krazyn8tive]

The only roadblock here is Floyd. If any of you believe that floyd will pick manny...and not the winner of khan-Alexander...then you haven't been paying attention the last six years.

[Bronx2245]

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You're welcome, and thanks for the shout! BTW, I was up there (Belleville, NJ/Harlem/BX/BK/S.I.) for the Veteran's Day weekend. Still miss that place, but the traffic SUCKS! I came back south with one song blasting in my head..."I'm in love with the coco!"

[Lullaby]

Hope this fight happens now

[SUBZER0ED]

This right here. Arum and Manny should shut up to, Arum and Scaefer both said negotiating in the media really ruined that fight as much as testing. Floyd might have learned the lesson, Arum's old ass hasn't.

I don't think that anything Arum and Manny have said of late hurts the chances of making this fight. It's the biggest fight in terms of interest and potential revenue since Ali vs Frazier 3. They are trying to promote this fight. If Mayweather uses the excuse that he won't fight Pacquiao because he doesn't like what Bob and Manny are saying, he's an even bigger b1tch than I thought.