Redefined Greatest Heavyweight Ever List

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Putting anyone except Ali as number 1 heavyweight is just nonsense. He dominated the golden era

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Accepts Joe Louis at number 5 when he has had a weaker era than Wladimir Klitschko...
Yet Wladimir is 11th

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chris byrd thats an interesting inclusion

Evander Holyfield ahead of Lennox Lewis and Larry Holmes is beyond dumb.

1. Muhammad Ali
2. George Foreman
3. Evander Holyfield
4. Larry Holmes
5. Joe Louis
6. Joe Frazier
7. Lennox Lewis
8. Mike Tyson
9. Rocky Marciano
10. Sonny Liston
11. Wladimir Klitschko
12. Ezzard Charles
13. Gene Tunney
14. Jack Dempsey
15. Vitali Klitschko
16. Jack Johnson
17. Michael Spinks
18. Jersey Joe Walcot
19. Rid**** Bowe
20. Chris Byrd

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Sonny Liston is very overrated, who did he ever beat besides Floyd Patterson?

He's just 2-2 in world title fights, and was stopped in those two losses.

He was also affiliated with the mob and they prove his fight with Ali were fixed.

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Sonny Liston is very overrated, who did he ever beat besides Floyd Patterson?

He's just 2-2 in world title fights, and was stopped in those two losses.

Quit because of a supposed shoulder injury in the 1st and the 2nd is the most highly debated stoppage in boxing history because it was total bollocks.

Patterson x2, Williams, Machen, Folley, Valdes are all solid wins against some very good fighters, the way he won his fights and his skill level is why people rate him so highly, not sure where I'd put him myself though, the Heavyweight division overall isn't one of the deepest and the way he dominated and cleaned the division in the early 60s is probably enough that people think he can rate so highly.

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Just on global name recognition, not record or longevity, I would say:
1 Ali
2 Tyson
3 Foreman
4 Marciano
5 Louis
6 Frazier
7 Dempsey
8 Lewis
9 Bruno (yes, believe it or not)
10 K Brothers (K2)

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Joe Frazier - "You've got a better time now, men are faster, smarter and a little bit more slicker"

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Joe Louis needs to be higher in that list imo

that 5th spot makes my neck itch.

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Just on global name recognition, not record or longevity, I would say:
1 Ali
2 Tyson
3 Foreman
4 Marciano
5 Louis
6 Frazier
7 Dempsey
8 Lewis
9 Bruno (yes, believe it or not)
10 K Brothers (K2)

Any list without Holmes is null and void. Esp top 10 buddy



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[Caught Square]

Good list overall, no one will ever agree on the exact position of fighters but i'm particularly interested to see your write ups for Foreman and Holyfield being higher than Louis and Holmes.