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  • #51
    Originally posted by Eastcoast View Post
    I hope both guys go on to contribute to the sport regardless of the result. Billy at this point actually has shown more personality outside of the ring than Chris. I like that Chris is a flashy fighter, who might have some pop. We've been missing that at MW with the departure of Martinez.

    The thing that really makes me confident in Eubanks winning the fight is that they're willing to take the fight. Chris didn't have to take this fight yet. He would've been justified with another half dozen step ups and then take this fight, ultimately making him more money. If team Eubanks didn't feel they could handle Saunders, they wouldn't be here. Look at guys like Quillin and Andrade, all about money and no risk. Chris will make six figures, but it's chump change for what his net worth will be over the next few years if he keeps winning.
    I can't help but feel the same. I also think he's a little bigger than BJS - actually I think he's only fought once at the 160 lb limit, but it's almost like they know something, because otherwise they surely wouldn't have taken the fight.

    BJS was a welterweight in the amateurs and really isn't a big middleweight either.

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    • #52
      it's best for boxing if the best man wins. we have enough "characters" (read: wankers) in british boxing already.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Box-Office View Post
        BJS has fought excellent opposition for a Non Olympic champion prospect. Afterall he can't fight the World level guys whilst he is still learning. BJS is still an up and coming fighter, so for that he has done marvelously well. He will be fighting his 4th undefeated straight prospect in a row and 5 in total. Almost unheard of. He may not look good, but then again look at whom he is facing. Give him Eubank's opposition then we'll see how good he looks.

        Not that best wins count at this point of your career as you are still learning, but for the sake of discussion I'd argue it is between Fletcher or more recently the Italian fellow he beat for the EBU title Blandamura who himself was coming off of a really solid win at European level.
        What does it matter he's fought undefeated prospects? Is that supposed to mean something?

        Fact is, his opposition up to now has been poor.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by NEETzsche View Post
          it's best for boxing if the best man wins. we have enough "characters" (read: wankers) in british boxing already.
          I think most people would say BJS is a bigger wank than Eubank although he can be quite funny.

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          • #55
            Avi and sig say's it all.#WarSaunders

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            • #56
              For me Eubank Jnr needs to step out of his father's shadow.

              He is basically a puppet, with Chris Snr pulling the strings.

              It is quite a weird relationship to be honest, apparently Eubank Snr sent Jnr to the USA to learn how to box, and only visited him once in 2 years?

              I don't know if Jnr has enough experience to be successful against Saunders, he will be fighting on 2 fronts Saturday night, having to win over both BJS and his father.

              I like Saunders confidence - Eubank is just full of cliches given to him from his old man IMO.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by alexguiness View Post
                For me Eubank Jnr needs to step out of his father's shadow.

                He is basically a puppet, with Chris Snr pulling the strings.

                It is quite a weird relationship to be honest, apparently Eubank Snr sent Jnr to the USA to learn how to box, and only visited him once in 2 years?

                I don't know if Jnr has enough experience to be successful against Saunders, he will be fighting on 2 fronts Saturday night, having to win over both BJS and his father.

                I like Saunders confidence - Eubank is just full of cliches given to him from his old man IMO.
                Eubank sr also went to the states in his young days and probably felt it made a man out of him or something and wanted to do that to his son also.

                In the UK he'll always be Eubank's son. In the US nobody really gives a **** so I think that was something as well, as far as I could understand from the way it was explained.

                It was reported as if he gave his sons away which was obviously ridiculous.

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                • #58
                  This is a ****** question.

                  As Neet said, it's best for boxing if the best man wins - everything else is redundant. It's laughable that you say BJS 'can't crack an egg' either, where did you pull that from?

                  It seems to me that everyone is jumping on Eubank Jr's bandwagon because he looks better when he throws punches and his Dad is Chris Eubank. People are trying to discredit BJS based on his performances against good opposition, yet bring up Eubank Jr despite his terrible opposition.

                  At times, Eubank Jr has looked really good... as if he was fighting against a punching bag. He landed an uppercut half-way across the ring against Horvath, I'd love to see him try that against a better opponent. But the excuse is that because he's fighting poor opposition, he's not getting out of first gear so there's this whole mystery behind how good he could really be.

                  He's as good as we've seen, we just haven't seen anyone to exploit his leaky defence and work rate. I think he'll have his moments against BJS but ultimately loses a clear UD, something like 116-112.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by D-MiZe View Post
                    This is a ****** question.

                    As Neet said, it's best for boxing if the best man wins - everything else is redundant. It's laughable that you say BJS 'can't crack an egg' either, where did you pull that from?

                    It seems to me that everyone is jumping on Eubank Jr's bandwagon because he looks better when he throws punches and his Dad is Chris Eubank. People are trying to discredit BJS based on his performances against good opposition, yet bring up Eubank Jr despite his terrible opposition.

                    At times, Eubank Jr has looked really good... as if he was fighting against a punching bag. He landed an uppercut half-way across the ring against Horvath, I'd love to see him try that against a better opponent. But the excuse is that because he's fighting poor opposition, he's not getting out of first gear so there's this whole mystery behind how good he could really be.

                    He's as good as we've seen, we just haven't seen anyone to exploit his leaky defence and work rate. I think he'll have his moments against BJS but ultimately loses a clear UD, something like 116-112.
                    Why is it a ****** question? It might in your opinion be better if the best man wins, clearly, as you've seen in this thread not everyone agrees with you. And that's not really the point of this thread anyway - the point is who's going to take it furthest IF they win.

                    What I meant was that I think Eubank has the potential to be a bigger star than BJS who I feel never really will attract the wider audiences, whereas I think Eubank jr could down the line because of his character in the ring + his dad and the whole sideshow.

                    BJS doesn't have much punching power and he still kind of fights like an amateur, trying to score points as opposed to hurting his opponents. He's a good fighter for sure, I just don't really see him being a helluva lot better than what he is right now. I might be wrong.

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                    • #60
                      Fuck being a star, this ain't Hollywood. Also, who agrees to Eubank Jr winning via robbery? People that fucking ******? Rigondeaux also got dat amateur style going on.

                      Saunders has got enough power to be respected, he relies more on his speed to beat his opponents and boxes well. He won't stand with Eubank Jr, so how much success will Jr have with a moving target that punches back.

                      I understand what you're saying, I just think that it doesn't matter who barks the loudest or who's got the prettiest plumage.

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