Frazier vs klitschko

[Elroy1]

Frazier stops Either Klit early, they would be club fighters in that era both of them.

THIS STATEMENT^^^

You know that's not true.

Vitali and Wladimir would not be allowed to even fight 60% of all of that eras opponents.

Of the remaining opponents, they knock practically every single one of them out, most of them in the first round.

Both Klits knock Frazier out in the first round.

LacedUp says "Oh, but Wladimir hasn't knocked out an opponent in the 1st round for YEARS".

Wladimir hasn't faced an opponent as weak as Frazier IN years (if ever).

Every time Wladimir DID face an opponent who hypothetically was as weak as Frazier, he DID knock them out in the first round.

Every opponent he has faced in recent times has been a top contender of some description who is either an exceptionally skilled counter-puncher, an elite athlete, or a hulking power puncher, or iron chinned strong man, or a combination thereof. It should come as NO SURPRISE that he no longer scores 1st round KO's.

He is no longer ALLOWED to fight opponents as weak/bummy as Frazier.

And what happened when he fought an opponent who was 7lbs heavier, leaner and more athletic and more skilled than Frazier, hiot harder, had better chin who was also 2" taller than Frazier to boot? A former multiple world CW champ who muscled up to HW (Mormeck)?

He was accused of "CHERRYPICKING" and ridiculed for picking "SUCH A SMALL OPPONENT"

If Wlad or Vitali ACTUALLY fought Ali, Frazier or their opponents, they would be SLAMMED for staging a title defence against such ridiculous opposition.

[Elroy1]

frazier was great lb 4 lb but I just cant see how anyone could see him toppling wlad who's just immensely bigger and stronger. hes also the better 2 fisted puncher. hed have wore joe out in the clinches if he didn't catch him and knock him out early ala foreman. frazier just would have been giving up too many physical disadvantages. size isn't everything but it helps when you use it like wlad does now in his later career

"Frazier was great lb for lb"

Really?

What the hell do you think would happen if Frazier were to fight Roy Jones Jr.?
Or Sergei Kovalev?

Frazier does not have the SKILLS to compete in a sub HW class.

Assuming he COULD even box today (he wouldn't be licensed because he was handicapped), he would be in a position where he would be too small to box with his style (or lack of one) against the strength of the HW division today. And if he decided to STRIP WEIGHT and compete in the CW division he would be in the unfortunate position where the opposition is far more sharper and complete skilled and more athletic than Frazier EVER was.

[KO'er]

What's up with the Frazier hate in the above 2 posts? SMH.

[Elroy1]

What's up with the Frazier hate in the above 2 posts? SMH.

I don't hate Frazier.

It's just an objective post.

Calling it how it REALLY is, instead of how you want it to be.

[LacedUp]

What's up with the Frazier hate in the above 2 posts? SMH.

He also admitted that Ali is the guy he dislikes most in boxing.

Expect an agenda.

[Elroy1]

He also admitted that Ali is the guy he dislikes most in boxing.

Expect an agenda.

"I" have an agenda?

There's a reason why I dislike him personally, pretty much why most ppl don't like him.

As for "actual boxing" I clearly separate in ring from out of ring experiences.

In ring.. he simply wasn't that good, BY TODAYS STANDARDS.

By the standards of his day, he was among the best boxers, he was NEVER clearly the best boxer, even in his OWN time.

[Weltschmerz]

People think Frazier would KO Vlad That's like saying Mormeck or Cunningham would too.

[LacedUp]

People think Frazier would KO Vlad That's like saying Mormeck or Cunningham would too.

Let's not act like Frazier is not clearly better than both those guys.

[Elroy1]

Let's not act like Frazier is not clearly better than both those guys.

False, Mormeck and Cunningham are both better than Frazier!

Fact!

MUCH better!

[Elroy1]

I tip both Mormeck or Cunningham to totally clown Frazier, beat him black and blue without even taking much punishment, Cunningham by TKO7, Mormeck by KO5. Shut out punch stats. Lopsided scorecards.