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    #21
    Originally posted by 4truth
    Tyson would have Liston looking for a soft place to lie down. Speed kills.

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    not just Mike's speed his great timing and great defense son had no way to land much the poster explained it real good

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      #22
      I feel like Cus D’Amato told Mike that Liston was the scariest dude ever so out of respect Mike just falsely claims he’d lose the fight. Patterson had a similar style but he fought scared and hit no where near as hard and wasn’t as strong.

      Listons jab is great but it’s one at a time and always thrown at the same speed. He be countered and the distance would be closed. He’s done for.

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        #23
        Originally posted by moneytheman

        cus never said that stop believing in myths said online that make no sense cus would never say a person as slow and easy to read would be a danger to Mike


        if u watch mike u would see mike was a counter puncher

        floyd wasnt a counterer he was more brawler

        mike was mid range
        floyd was more close

        floyd threw combos usually outta random

        mike threw 3-4 combos usually from counters or seeing a person is hurt already

        mike changed angles at anytime once he seen his victim had bad defense to catch them off guard
        I called them switches

        so if u call any of this the same u have a vision problem so why did you say that lie quote of they was similar none of this is alike at all
        Floyd and Tyson are similar with the peek-a-boo style.

        Don’t be a nitpicking douche with your 8 likes. You can use the points.

        Cus D’Amato told Floyd to avoid fighting Liston at all cost. Floyd disobeyed. Does this sound like the kind of guy who would tell Tyson that Liston is a tomato can?

        Use your brains, if you got any.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Sweet Pea 50
          Pretty good write up.

          Calling Tyson's chin "nonexistent" is a bit hyperbolic in my opinion.


          this, even shot with lennox he ate a bunch of punches before he went down. he ate a lot against buster douglas too.

          in all his stoppages except those post lennox when he just quit, he ate a lot of shots, not like he got put out cold with a single shot. so his chin certainly isnt "non existent"

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            #25
            Originally posted by moneytheman

            cus never said that stop believing in myths said online that make no sense cus would never say a person as slow and easy to read would be a danger to Mike

            if u watch mike u would see mike was a counter puncher

            floyd wasnt a counterer he was more brawler

            mike was mid range
            floyd was more close

            floyd threw combos usually outta random

            mike threw 3-4 combos usually from counters or seeing a person is hurt already

            mike changed angles at anytime once he seen his victim had bad defense to catch them off guard
            I called them switches

            so if u call any of this the same u have a vision problem so why did you say that lie quote of they was similar none of this is alike at all stop repeating dumb quotes you seen others say without watching you dumb follower you trolls are crazy
            Did you pick Helenius to upset Kownacki?

            Or Rosario to upset J Rock?

            Or Fury to go on the offensive to stop Wilder in 8?

            Or pick Kiko Martinez to stop Kid Galahad?

            Cuz I kinda think that was all me.

            Address me with some respect the next time you try talking to me, ya dumb bitch

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              #26
              Originally posted by elfag



              this, even shot with lennox he ate a bunch of punches before he went down. he ate a lot against buster douglas too.

              in all his stoppages except those post lennox when he just quit, he ate a lot of shots, not like he got put out cold with a single shot. so his chin certainly isnt "non existent"
              well only dumb followers who dont watch matches and go off other dummies saying he wasnt tough say that

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                #27
                Originally posted by moneytheman



                cus never said that stop believing in myths said online that make no sense cus would never say a person as slow and easy to read would be a danger to Mike

                if u watch mike u would see mike was a counter puncher

                floyd wasnt a counterer he was more brawler

                mike was mid range
                floyd was more close

                floyd threw combos usually outta random

                mike threw 3-4 combos usually from counters or seeing a person is hurt already

                mike changed angles at anytime once he seen his victim had bad defense to catch them off guard
                I called them switches

                so if u call any of this the same u have a vision problem so why did you say that lie quote of they was similar none of this is alike at all stop repeating dumb quotes you seen others say without watching you dumb follower you trolls are crazy
                Cus and Tyson used to discuss old fights and fighters all the time. I’m 100% I’ve heard Tyson say that Cus told him all about Liston. It isn’t some myth I read on the internet. I’m somewhat of a boxing historian.

                Your annoying dumbass is going on ignore. Try being less presumptuous with the next guy. It makes you look incredibly ******.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by TheMyspaceDayz

                  Cus and Tyson used to discuss old fights and fighters all the time. I’m 100% I’ve heard Tyson say that Cus told him all about Liston. It isn’t some myth I read on the internet. I’m somewhat of a boxing historian.

                  Your annoying dumbass is going on ignore. Try being less presumptuous with the next guy. It makes you look incredibly ******.


                  cus never said that stop believing in myths said online that make no sense cus would never say a person as slow and easy to read would be a danger to Mike

                  if u watch mike u would see mike was a counter puncher

                  floyd wasnt a counterer he was more brawler

                  mike was mid range
                  floyd was more close

                  floyd threw combos usually outta random

                  mike threw 3-4 combos usually from counters or seeing a person is hurt already

                  mike changed angles at anytime once he seen his victim had bad defense to catch them off guard
                  I called them switches

                  so if u call any of this the same u have a vision problem so why did you say that lie quote of they was similar none of this is alike at all stop repeating dumb quotes you seen others say without watching you dumb follower you trolls are crazy

                  cus said what you said yet no proof of it

                  cus used to watch with mike no proof of that either see how you keep using dumb quotes you read show vid proof if he said that and used to watch show proof you crazy dumb follower show the vid proof like I said since he said that and used to do that since you think everything you read online is true dumb follower
                  Last edited by Ascended; 02-09-2022, 08:59 AM.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by abdelfadeel

                    I consider only Patterson an atg. I think the others were great. Their is a difference.
                    Patterson was a built up middleweight, and because of his speed and the fastest puncher of his time, had great success. But eventually he took a lot of punishment and slowed down. By the time he fought Liston he was done-mentally and physically.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by abdelfadeel
                      Contrary to popular belief, his best range was not inside, it was mid-range.
                      Sonny Liston would not have that hard a time with Tyson.Liston would used the jab to pick off the smaller Tyson and set him up for big rights and uppercuts.Tyson's style was exactly like Floyd Patterson's (Cus trained him also) but with much more power.Sonny can take anything Tyson dishes out,and that would discourage Mike big time.A great heavyweight contender named Cleveland Williams unloaded on Sonny in the first round of their first fight,bloodying his nose and possibly breaking it.Williams had big time power like Tyson and probably the same amount of speed.Williams was also bigger than Tyson.Liston simply shook off the blows and figured Williams out,eventually knocking him out in 3 rounds.Sonny took Williams down in the 2 round in their rematch.Liston would pound the smaller Tyson around the ring and do what nobody ever did with a prime Tyson and that's dominate him.Sonny takes this in no more than 5 but probably ends this much earlier by 3rd round knockout.
                      Williams was a very good puncher, but SLOW...SLOW. Liston also a very good puncher and also SLOW. but faster than Wiams and also had a good straight left., Williams did not have a good chin. He was KOd 9 times in 13 losses, some by journeymen.

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