Pulev is garbage; the HW div. is trash.

[bojangles1987]

He was garbage. He literally stood in front of Wlad doing nothing most the time and didn't move his head a millimeter. People are giving him credit for landing a few punches and actually trying in the clinch, it's ridiculous.

He got overhyped to hell because of a couple fighters not fighting him. He's no where near the best fighter in the division besides Wlad like people tried to sell him. He may not even be top 5. If he is, that's ****ing sad.

[LacedUp]

It really isn't. Joshua is a mile off becoming a legit HW fighter. He took up the game late, got a gift medal (most felt he was beaten twice) and remains a Hearn hype-job until he proven otherwise. He's a UK Bryant Jennings or Deontay Wilder, not even that right now, with more power.

Pulev is one of the more skilled fighters in the division, having to rely on his technical ability to win fights rather than power. He systematically breaks bigger fighters down over 12 rounds and stops them late.

You disrespect these guys calling them turds etc but you support Haye, the real turd of the division who gets stretched by these guys.

Joshua's jab is clearly better than Poolev's. I'm not talking about him as a fighter, even though I think Joshua could already beat him now.

But what skills though? I ask for a third time. What are his skills?

Who has he beaten? Ustinov and Dimitrenko? 42 year old Tony Thompson who was never anything in his prime and started boxing at 30?

Who cares what their personalities are? Haye's skills are in a completely other stratosphere to Poolev and Thompson - which is why TT was his sparring partner.

[LacedUp]

He was garbage. He literally stood in front of Wlad doing nothing most the time and didn't move his head a millimeter. People are giving him credit for landing a few punches and actually trying in the clinch, it's ridiculous.

He got overhyped to hell because of a couple fighters not fighting him. He's no where near the best fighter in the division besides Wlad like people tried to sell him. He may not even be top 5. If he is, that's ****ing sad.

His skills might not be visible to the ordinary eye, but they are definitely there! he's highly skilled.

[bojangles1987]

and why do you think i hate wlad? because he's constantly cheating. something i happen to be against. you can't see that his constant clinching is a huge strategic advantage or you just don't care.

The mother****er literally ran forward and clinched when the opening bell rang.

People are trying to say he didn't clinch a lot, are you kidding me? He was clinching as bad as the Povetkin fight, it just didn't last long enough to see that because Pulev is way worse than Povetkin.

[bojangles1987]

That was an incredible performance by Wlad. For a man to be that big and throw feint/lead left hooks like that is just impressive. He was throwing punches like RJJ used to throw.

Look no one likes the clinching. I hate it. It's still annoying how often he does it. But you have got to give the man his due. He destroyed a guy who was supposed to at least be competitive.

The only reason anyone thought Pulev would be competitive is because of Klitschko fans hyping him up over a couple guys ducking him.

There was literally nothing about Pulev going in that suggested Wlad wouldn't beat his ass. And you can check my post history if you want, I've said that all along.

[Weebler I]

Joshua's jab is clearly better than Poolev's. I'm not talking about him as a fighter, even though I think Joshua could already beat him now.

But what skills though? I ask for a third time. What are his skills?

Who has he beaten? Ustinov and Dimitrenko? 42 year old Tony Thompson who was never anything in his prime and started boxing at 30?

Who cares what their personalities are? Haye's skills are in a completely other stratosphere to Poolev and Thompson - which is why TT was his sparring partner.

I already said to you, but you don't want to listen. You want to claim a Hearn hype-job as better despite not having proven it against anyone of significance.

Pulev has ability, if you don't want to see it that's on you. Is he the next best in the division? time will tell.

All this stuff was said about Povetkin too, but they're not saying it today. Give it a year and I expect these agendas will look silly because this is a guy who wants to fight unlike the toe.

[LacedUp]

I already said to you, but you don't want to listen. You want to claim a Hearn hype-job as better despite not having proven it against anyone of significance.

Pulev has ability, if you don't want to see it that's on you. Is he the next best in the division? time will tell.

All this stuff was said about Povetkin too, but they're not saying it today. Give it a year and I expect these agendas will look silly because this is a guy who wants to fight unlike the toe.

I didn't say he was a better fighter, I said he had a better jab. Just the technicalities of the jab and how it travels from just outside the chin to square on his opponents face, whilst following up with a hook or a right hand. That's how it should be done, and joshua does that even if it is against limited opposition.

Poolev has his arms outstretched turning them clockwise in front of his opponents face - i.e. not how a jab is supposed to be thrown.

So you've mentioned he has a good jab, I think you used the word 'outstanding' which it clearly isn't. but what else does he have?

Why are you making this about Haye? Who gives a shyt about him? I certainly don't.

But any drooling idiot can see that Poolev doesn't have any skills.

[Elroy1]

Pulev doesn't have any skills?

He has a good jab and a solid all around boxer, to the level where he was top ranked in the world.

You just went full ******.

If Pulev doesn't have any skills, then nobody in boxing history had any skills.

The guy is 6'4" and 240lbs. If your implying you want him to fight like a middleweight, your expectations are ridiculous!

[Weebler I]

I didn't say he was a better fighter, I said he had a better jab. Just the technicalities of the jab and how it travels from just outside the chin to square on his opponents face, whilst following up with a hook or a right hand. That's how it should be done, and joshua does that even if it is against limited opposition.

Poolev has his arms outstretched turning them clockwise in front of his opponents face - i.e. not how a jab is supposed to be thrown.

So you've mentioned he has a good jab, I think you used the word 'outstanding' which it clearly isn't. but what else does he have?

Why are you making this about Haye? Who gives a shyt about him? I certainly don't.

But any drooling idiot can see that Poolev doesn't have any skills.

This isn't a mediocre Spilka, a Jennings or even a Wilder (all of whom would lose to the even current version of Thompson) but somehow you treat him as if he is less.

Since Pulev doesn't have big power to rely on, it's only really only skill that wins him fights, he has to outbox his opponents. But you have it in your head Pulev has no skill, and anyone he has beaten based on his skills is a turd.

I don't know how boxing fans can write this kind of stuff, but whatever man, I've read enough.

[Daddy T]

why do ye guys even watch wlad fights if no matter what he does ye will always say the exact same thing afterwards? A) he's awesome and would beat Ali and foreman in the same night ... B) he is dog crap and would be sparked in a round by (insert any retired top 500 heavyweight from the past)

Just call it the way it is ... if its a stinker like Povetkin call it one.

If it's an entertaining fight and a solid win like pulev call it one.

If you call everything a stinker then you're nothing but a hater and can be ignored.

If you say he's always awesome you are just a fan boy and can also be ignored.

My conclusion ... pretty much every tw*t in this thread (well let's say 90% of ye) can be ignored