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But they are the same nationality? Exactly. How can people NOT like him? Because he actually entertains us when he's in the ring. Wlad doesn't generally do that. Which is why in the early 2000s he was being hyped as the next big thing after Lewis, but he got KOd and lost and put up one stinker after another. That's not true at all.
Wlad gets stick for stinking the joint out. I have honestly never heard anyone mention his nationality other than the people who are trying to defend him saying others just don't like him because of that. Which is so clearly a pathetic and below-the-belt accusation to throw on someone else.Comment
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First off, many of the people in this thread say Pulev was bad, not Wlad.
Second of all, you're embarrassing yourselves bringing race and colour into it. The main reason people don't like Wlad is because he's not very interesting to watch, most of the times.
It's a ****** myth that people wouldn't like a white heavyweight champion when history has proved that white heavyweights, regardless of nationality have always been extremely popular. This goes all the way back to John l Sullivan, James J Jeffries, Jimmy Braddock, George Carpentier all the way to Henry Cooper, Jerry Quarry and Gerry Cooney.
It's simply a very uneducated and hateful excuse to use, when you can't fathom how some people do not find it attractive having two big guys in the middle of the ring without headmovement, no footwork with both of their hands in the air almost like this:
Before one of them lands a jab.
It has nothing to do with nationality or colour and saying so is completely ******. A guy like GGG is from the same part of the world, but extremely popular. Why is that? Kovalev? Kostya Tszuy?
How come these guys were popular?
Wlad's nationality is clearly part of the reason that he is so harshly criticized. Americans have dominated the heavyweight division throughout most of its history. Wlad's dominating of the division signifies the decline in American heavyweight boxing. Him being boring can hardly be the reason, it is not just that people don't want to watch him, which is fair enough, but that so many ridicule his talents and suggest he isn't a great heavyweight. Sour g****s and prejudice.Comment
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Show me some proof then.
Why are nobody mocking the skills of Kovalev, GGG, Pacquiao, Rigo etc?
Why are people also mocking Froch, Fury, Price etc?
Could it be feasible, and I'm just putting this out there, that people actually think Wlad is boring and it's not because he's not American?? I know it's far-fetched, but think about it. Could it be feasible that everyone are in for ctiticism?
It's not like Lennox Lewis was capturing the imagination of the Americans either, even though he was 5 times more attractive to watch than Wlad.Comment
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I already said the difference between your examples and Wlad: Wlad is a heavyweight.
If it was just because he is boring then why the reluctance to give him credit? Surely someone can think a fighter is boring but still acknowledge their greatness?
Your final example is actually evidence for my claim. The reluctance to acknowledge Lewis' greatness was because he wasn't American.Comment
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No way bruh, these wins over Lepai and Pulev rival those of Ali beating Foreman and Frazier.
And all the other HOF fighters that he beat like Chris Byrd, etc.
Chicksko is THEE greatest HW of ALL TIME."peeleft:Comment
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The whole Americans don't like Wlad due to nationality or color is simply not true. His brother had the American people behind him when he fought Lewis and was very popular when he fought for the vacant title against Saunders for the vacant title, having just beaten Kirk Johsnon in two rounds at Madison square gardens. Wladimir just does not capture the imagination of the people, it's not entirely his faut, it's been a pretty lackluster era. Wladimir-Haye actually captured the imagination of the public though, great buildup, interesting matchup, they filled a soccer stadium in hamburg, it felt like a proper heavyweight fight, unfortunately it was a snooze fest.Comment
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it sounds like people are pissed because they think klitsch is holding the hw belt hostage. i think the general consensus is america is the best and all other countries is second rate in terms of money and fame. maybe its true but surely it doesnt have to be. maybe on some boxing forum in russia or england, people are mad because so and so only fight in oakland or vegas or new york or whatever. just chalk it up to haters be hatin.
klitschko doing his thing, not giving a ****. he the champ, he national treasure of russia, he makin money, etc. hes the mayweather of russia.
if klitsch has to come to the challenger, then as the champ he is being punked. if i was to make a boatload of money, that small blow to my pride is nothing. but i cant comprehend how a fight in vegas could be more lucrative to him rather than his home country where cities are probably throwing money at him to fight in their arena.Last edited by davidandrei; 11-15-2014, 11:56 PM.Comment
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