Sergio Martinez: In 2010, MARTINEZ CONFIRMED AS "PLAN B" FOR MAYWEATHER. Sergio Was the threat at 154. He was supposedly plan B if Manny fight didn't happen but Floyd didn't fight him then or anytime. http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=394473
In 2011, Maravilla calls out Floyd again http://www.examiner .com/article/will-mayweather-jr-step-up-and-fight-sergio-martinez-maravilla-calls-out-floyd
In 2012, Sergio Martinez willing to take an 80 ***8211; 20 split with Mayweather http://www.boxingnews 24.com/2012/03/martinez-willing-to-take-an-80-20-split-with-mayweather/
P Williams:
"I don't think Floyd Mayweather will fight me anytime," Williams said. "Manny Pacquiao, he might do it, he might step up but not Floyd.
"I guess Floyd won't fight me because I don't have a vagina."
"If Floyd went to Al and said, "Hey, I want to fight Paul Williams, what can Al do? But Floyd is not going to ever say that. Pacquiao, he fights bigger guys, he's different than Mayweather so maybe I will get to fight him."
"Floyd ranks himself with Ray Robinson, with Joe Louis, all these guys..but all those great guys, they all lost sometime. Mayweather won't take a hard fight, he won't take the chance of losing."
Cotto and Margarito:
All 3 were with Top Rank at one point. If Floyd wanted those fights, they would have happened. Arum had Margarito wait and wait for Floyd. Floyd fought Baldomir instead.
Floyd said that he always was su****ious of Margarito and knew he shouldn't fight him.
Floyd in ~2007 said that he didn't want to fight Cotto.
Mosley:
Mosley had fought twice that year and had a planned vacation with his family. Mosley told Floyd to wait a few more months then they can get it on. Floyd said no and fought early February. Floyd fought in November. Floyd couldn't wait a few months? Why? Remember that Floyd even announced that he would retire. Would you take on Mosley or Baldomir before you retire?
Mosley called out Floyd all of 2007-2010. Mosley fought Oscar 2X, Winky 2X, undefeated Cotto, the Margarito that beat, Cotto, Vernon Forrest 2X, Manny Pacquiao, ..... Mosley fought opponents that were much more dangerous than Floyd ever was.So why duck Floyd in 2006 then call him out from 2007-2010?
Winky:
Floyd called out Winky. Winky said OK to all demands. Floyd changed the demands last second as Winky's team was coming to sign.
I guess you didn't google enough because you are wrong son!
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You obviously didnt read my post, everything I posted was FACTUAL, what you responded with was an article where Sergio Martinez's adviser said he felt Martinez was Mayweathers plan B, lol.
then you go on to post things that were said in the MEDIA. Read my post gain some knowledge and move on, because according to you Mayweather has been ducking Anthony Mundine for years based on how long he's been calling Mayweather out. LOL. AGAIN NEGOTIATING through the MEDIA is not NEGOTIATING it's PUBLICITY. READ the post because i listed facts and you listed quites of fighters saying the wanna fight other fighters, lol Rocky Marciano ducked Ali because Ali is quoted as saying he wants to fight Marciano, see makes sense?
Sergio Martinez: In 2010, MARTINEZ CONFIRMED AS "PLAN B" FOR MAYWEATHER. Sergio Was the threat at 154. He was supposedly plan B if Manny fight didn't happen but Floyd didn't fight him then or anytime. http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=394473
In 2011, Maravilla calls out Floyd again http://www.examiner .com/article/will-mayweather-jr-step-up-and-fight-sergio-martinez-maravilla-calls-out-floyd
In 2012, Sergio Martinez willing to take an 80 / 20 split with Mayweather http://www.boxingnews 24.com/2012/03/martinez-willing-to-take-an-80-20-split-with-mayweather/
P Williams:
"I don't think Floyd Mayweather will fight me anytime," Williams said. "Manny Pacquiao, he might do it, he might step up but not Floyd.
"I guess Floyd won't fight me because I don't have a vagina."
"If Floyd went to Al and said, "Hey, I want to fight Paul Williams, what can Al do? But Floyd is not going to ever say that. Pacquiao, he fights bigger guys, he's different than Mayweather so maybe I will get to fight him."
"Floyd ranks himself with Ray Robinson, with Joe Louis, all these guys..but all those great guys, they all lost sometime. Mayweather won't take a hard fight, he won't take the chance of losing."
Cotto and Margarito:
All 3 were with Top Rank at one point. If Floyd wanted those fights, they would have happened. Arum had Margarito wait and wait for Floyd. Floyd fought Baldomir instead.
Floyd said that he always was su****ious of Margarito and knew he shouldn't fight him.
Floyd in ~2007 said that he didn't want to fight Cotto.
Mosley:
Mosley had fought twice that year and had a planned vacation with his family. Mosley told Floyd to wait a few more months then they can get it on. Floyd said no and fought early February. Floyd fought in November. Floyd couldn't wait a few months? Why? Remember that Floyd even announced that he would retire. Would you take on Mosley or Baldomir before you retire?
Mosley called out Floyd all of 2007-2010. Mosley fought Oscar 2X, Winky 2X, undefeated Cotto, the Margarito that beat, Cotto, Vernon Forrest 2X, Manny Pacquiao, ..... Mosley fought opponents that were much more dangerous than Floyd ever was.So why duck Floyd in 2006 then call him out from 2007-2010?
Winky:
Floyd called out Winky. Winky said OK to all demands. Floyd changed the demands last second as Winky's team was coming to sign.
I guess you didn't google enough because you are wrong son!
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And as far as Winky, Mayweather wanted a bigger purse split because he was taking the bigger risk obviously fighting a full fledged middle weight as Winky was already competing at 160 at the time, and Mayweather was going to move up 2 weight classes to take that fight. Light welterweight to Light Middleweight
Sergio Martinez: In 2010, MARTINEZ CONFIRMED AS "PLAN B" FOR MAYWEATHER. Sergio Was the threat at 154. He was supposedly plan B if Manny fight didn't happen but Floyd didn't fight him then or anytime. http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=394473
In 2011, Maravilla calls out Floyd again http://www.examiner .com/article/will-mayweather-jr-step-up-and-fight-sergio-martinez-maravilla-calls-out-floyd
In 2012, Sergio Martinez willing to take an 80 / 20 split with Mayweather http://www.boxingnews 24.com/2012/03/martinez-willing-to-take-an-80-20-split-with-mayweather/
P Williams:
"I don't think Floyd Mayweather will fight me anytime," Williams said. "Manny Pacquiao, he might do it, he might step up but not Floyd.
"I guess Floyd won't fight me because I don't have a vagina."
"If Floyd went to Al and said, "Hey, I want to fight Paul Williams, what can Al do? But Floyd is not going to ever say that. Pacquiao, he fights bigger guys, he's different than Mayweather so maybe I will get to fight him."
"Floyd ranks himself with Ray Robinson, with Joe Louis, all these guys..but all those great guys, they all lost sometime. Mayweather won't take a hard fight, he won't take the chance of losing."
He also said a number of times that he thought Mayweather would be willing to fight him, but Pacquaio wouldn't be:
Regarding Pacquiao - "He said he wanted to fight me at 150 pounds. I accepted. When I reached the conclusion that I could make that weight, I accepted. And now he says he wants it at 147 pounds. I've not made that weight in twelve years. I don't think I can make even if I cut off both legs. It is physically impossible. Pacquiao is completely ruled out."
Regarding Mayweather - "With Mayweather it's possible. We're going to make a proposal and carry it forward. It would take place at 150 or 151 pounds. That would be the agreed weight. Mayweather is a possibility and that's quite solid and concrete. You do not need a title for us to fight. But anything is possible."
Also, I didn't see Pacquaio trying to fight Paul Williams, but his fans don't call him out for ducking there.
Sergio Martinez: In 2010, MARTINEZ CONFIRMED AS "PLAN B" FOR MAYWEATHER. Sergio Was the threat at 154. He was supposedly plan B if Manny fight didn't happen but Floyd didn't fight him then or anytime. http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=394473
In 2011, Maravilla calls out Floyd again http://www.examiner .com/article/will-mayweather-jr-step-up-and-fight-sergio-martinez-maravilla-calls-out-floyd
In 2012, Sergio Martinez willing to take an 80 / 20 split with Mayweather http://www.boxingnews 24.com/2012/03/martinez-willing-to-take-an-80-20-split-with-mayweather/
P Williams:
"I don't think Floyd Mayweather will fight me anytime," Williams said. "Manny Pacquiao, he might do it, he might step up but not Floyd.
"I guess Floyd won't fight me because I don't have a vagina."
"If Floyd went to Al and said, "Hey, I want to fight Paul Williams, what can Al do? But Floyd is not going to ever say that. Pacquiao, he fights bigger guys, he's different than Mayweather so maybe I will get to fight him."
"Floyd ranks himself with Ray Robinson, with Joe Louis, all these guys..but all those great guys, they all lost sometime. Mayweather won't take a hard fight, he won't take the chance of losing."
Cotto and Margarito:
All 3 were with Top Rank at one point. If Floyd wanted those fights, they would have happened. Arum had Margarito wait and wait for Floyd. Floyd fought Baldomir instead.
Floyd said that he always was su****ious of Margarito and knew he shouldn't fight him.
Floyd in ~2007 said that he didn't want to fight Cotto.
Mosley:
Mosley had fought twice that year and had a planned vacation with his family. Mosley told Floyd to wait a few more months then they can get it on. Floyd said no and fought early February. Floyd fought in November. Floyd couldn't wait a few months? Why? Remember that Floyd even announced that he would retire. Would you take on Mosley or Baldomir before you retire?
Mosley called out Floyd all of 2007-2010. Mosley fought Oscar 2X, Winky 2X, undefeated Cotto, the Margarito that beat, Cotto, Vernon Forrest 2X, Manny Pacquiao, ..... Mosley fought opponents that were much more dangerous than Floyd ever was.So why duck Floyd in 2006 then call him out from 2007-2010?
Winky:
Floyd called out Winky. Winky said OK to all demands. Floyd changed the demands last second as Winky's team was coming to sign.
I guess you didn't google enough because you are wrong son!
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Also using your Logic Pac has ducked Paul Williams, Sergio Martinez, and Miguel Cotto at 154. Using your logic Pac is also ducking Khan, Thurman, Lara, Canelo. I mean we can keep going, or is this just the rule when it pertains to Mayweather.
Pac being a little fighter in stature became the GIANT KILLER: FACT
Pac fought the prime elites of the day:
Cotto , Clottey, Margo, Bradley TWICE
He destroyed a bigger Hatton
He destroyed and old ODH and Mosley
Fact : May Jr has YET to face a Prime WW elite in the past 10 years or EVER !
He has fought guys that came from Lower weights as well as Pac.
Cotto came from 140, Pac fought him Prime, Jr ducked Cotto in Prime.
Pac fought Margo prime, Jr blatantly ducked Margo prime.
Jr would have had no problem fighting Pac in PRIME ,,,,,,,IF ,,,,,,,,,,, he had wanted too.
Jr chose the DUCK route and is the Best at it.
The Duck is quite, but will start Quacking soon"peeleft:
It is ****** for me to even reply to this, but I have a little time on my hands...
Pacquiao is the catchweight king: Fact
He has fought:
Weight Drained Cotto, and ducked a rematch at a more comfortable weight for Cotto
Ear Muff Clottey
Margo after being beat to hell by Mosley
Bradley who just isn't as good as you would like to pretend he is.
He destroyed a bigger Hatton after Mayweather did the same when he was undefeated.
He destroyed an older, weight drained worse version of ODH than Mayweather did
He beat an older Mosley after Mayweather fought Mosely right after he destroyed Margarito
And don't forget, Manny ducked Floyd due to a clearly untrue "fear of needles." Even Roach knows that.
You obviously didnt read my post, everything I posted was FACTUAL, what you responded with was an article where Sergio Martinez's adviser said he felt Martinez was Mayweathers plan B, lol.
then you go on to post things that were said in the MEDIA. Read my post gain some knowledge and move on, because according to you Mayweather has been ducking Anthony Mundine for years based on how long he's been calling Mayweather out. LOL. AGAIN NEGOTIATING through the MEDIA is not NEGOTIATING it's PUBLICITY. READ the post because i listed facts and you listed quites of fighters saying the wanna fight other fighters, lol Rocky Marciano ducked Ali because Ali is quoted as saying he wants to fight Marciano, see makes sense?
You are the one who should be re-reading your posts. YOU said that people like P. Williams and so on didn't call out Floyd. Well, as I showed you, they did!
You looked all confused when I brought up that list ... So I explained it to you in simple English. Floyd is all up to fighting other opponents as long as the risks are low and the reward is high.
We know who Floyd ducked so you don't need to go there. Stop with them excuses. We know that Floyd doesn't like to fight relatively risky opponents and gave you some of those names. Even Floyd's opponents say that Floyd cherry picks. Even Floyd admits it and says that he deserves to cherry pick.
And as far as Winky, Mayweather wanted a bigger purse split because he was taking the bigger risk obviously fighting a full fledged middle weight as Winky was already competing at 160 at the time, and Mayweather was going to move up 2 weight classes to take that fight. Light welterweight to Light Middleweight
Stop with them excuses. Floyd called Winky and when Winky said yes, Floyd freaked out and then tried to find a way to get out. Winky said yes to all of Floyd's demands including money. It was all set. Then Floyd changed his mind on the money as Winky's team was ready to sign .....
He also said a number of times that he thought Mayweather would be willing to fight him, but Pacquaio wouldn't be:
Regarding Pacquiao - "He said he wanted to fight me at 150 pounds. I accepted. When I reached the conclusion that I could make that weight, I accepted. And now he says he wants it at 147 pounds. I've not made that weight in twelve years. I don't think I can make even if I cut off both legs. It is physically impossible. Pacquiao is completely ruled out."
Regarding Mayweather - "With Mayweather it's possible. We're going to make a proposal and carry it forward. It would take place at 150 or 151 pounds. That would be the agreed weight. Mayweather is a possibility and that's quite solid and concrete. You do not need a title for us to fight. But anything is possible."
Also, I didn't see Pacquaio trying to fight Paul Williams, but his fans don't call him out for ducking there.
Nice try but you fail. Manny said that he wouldn't go past WW after trying it out once with Margarito. Floyd on the other hand has gone up to fight at 154 3 times and has fought and held several titles. So Floyd has shown that he can and will go up to 154 but it depends on how good the opponent is. Risk vs reward. Someone like Martinez presented too much risk .....
They (eg Martinez) said that Manny was too small. Floyd would make more sense as he is bigger and as stated, has fought at 154 before and currently holds a title there.
Also using your Logic Pac has ducked Paul Williams, Sergio Martinez, and Miguel Cotto at 154. Using your logic Pac is also ducking Khan, Thurman, Lara, Canelo. I mean we can keep going, or is this just the rule when it pertains to Mayweather.
So now you agree about those guys because you have the Manny excuse?
How can you duck a division where Manny tries once at a lower limit and said during his training camp that 154 is just too high?
now that I killed your excuse, I'm sure you will not like that logic no more ..... and I doubt you will agree that Floyd ducked them even though for a moment, you were willing to accept the idea if it was Manny.
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