Amir Khan Master Thread

[kdee]

He doesn't want to fight in June because he doesn't want to go into ramadan a few days after a fight, which I can respect. Secondly, Salita although was a mandatory, it was also a gift to Frank warren he did it as a thank you before leaving to join GBP. If you watch the latest IFL TV with Hearn he mentioned the likes of Diego Chaves, Sadaam Ali and Porter for the may 30th fight. Heck why does he not just wait a week or 2 extra for mid june and fight Thurman or Bradley? Now they're making it like Rios is some super duper mega blockbuster fight in August yet we all know he did as bad as Algerie vs Pac. Algerie is not that bad of a fight, Gavin is extremely bad. Rios and Algerie are equally as bad.

Bull****, he doesn't want to fight because he's chicken **** scared and is trying to weasel himself into the easiest fights possible. He is a walking contradiction. In Islam you are not allowed to strike people in the face, yet he makes excuses not to fight before Ramadan, BEFORE!. I know you are his family and are trying to save your dear amir, but he is hanging on a thin thread now and the fraudulent matchmaking/moneygrabbing is over. It's a rocky road now.

[ma51f]

He doesn't want to fight in June because he doesn't want to go into ramadan a few days after a fight, which I can respect. Secondly, Salita although was a mandatory, it was also a gift to Frank warren he did it as a thank you before leaving to join GBP. If you watch the latest IFL TV with Hearn he mentioned the likes of Diego Chaves, Sadaam Ali and Porter for the may 30th fight. Heck why does he not just wait a week or 2 extra for mid june and fight Thurman or Bradley? Now they're making it like Rios is some super duper mega blockbuster fight in August yet we all know he did as bad as Algerie vs Pac. Algerie is not that bad of a fight, Gavin is extremely bad. Rios and Algerie are equally as bad.

Doesn't want to go into Ramadan a few days after a fight? Why exactly? It makes ZERO sense & even if it did, Khan is hardly a ****** role model is he.

I agree Gavin is a veto poor fight, even crappier then Algeri. Algeri is coming off a 12 round boxing masterclass, Khan is in a lose lose situation fighting him now.

It's a shame you know, Khan is wasting his prime years chasing a fight he does not deserve nor will ever get, he is far too deluded & needs to humble himself.

[alexguiness]

He doesn't want to fight in June because he doesn't want to go into ramadan a few days after a fight, which I can respect. Secondly, Salita although was a mandatory, it was also a gift to Frank warren he did it as a thank you before leaving to join GBP. If you watch the latest IFL TV with Hearn he mentioned the likes of Diego Chaves, Sadaam Ali and Porter for the may 30th fight. Heck why does he not just wait a week or 2 extra for mid june and fight Thurman or Bradley? Now they're making it like Rios is some super duper mega blockbuster fight in August yet we all know he did as bad as Algerie vs Pac. Algerie is not that bad of a fight, Gavin is extremely bad. Rios and Algerie are equally as bad.

That is the most BS reason for not taking the biggest fight of his career I have heard so far.

A ****** can fast at different times of the year, so using Ramadan as an excuse it pathetic and actually disrespectful to Islam.

Other ******'s work around Ramadan all the time.

Khan uses his faith as a smokescreen - he is a bad ******.

[shahida TKO]

Fucking BS post, don't talk about a religion if you know nothing of it.

nice one.

people dont realize that just coz you box it doesnt mean you can stop fasting lol

non fasting for people in ramadhan is usually reserved for sick people who are on medication or people who are travelling long distances they dont have to fast.

boxing doesnt come into it, not fasting coz you have a boxing match is unislamic..

that ****ing racist above you doesnt lknow jack **** about anything lol

[alexguiness]

Fucking BS post, don't talk about a religion if you know nothing of it.

Ok - then do you feel Ramadan is a genuine and solid reason for Khan not fighting Brook?

I wonder...What if Floyd offered Khan a June fight;

Would Ramadan is an issue for Amir then?

[Box3r]

Fucking BS post, don't talk about a religion if you know nothing of it.

Was going on brother ain't seen you here for a long time...

[shahida TKO]

Ok - then do you feel Ramadan is a genuine and solid reason for Khan not fighting Brook?

of course just coz youre a boxer doesnt mean you dont fast.. google it and then you wont need to post up silly comments bro...

you see youre confused and i dont blame you.. other ****** sportsmen like mo farah who is a ****** but doesnt fast when he is running in ramadhan, which is totally wrong as running is not important as one of the pillars of islam whoch is fasting.

does it state anywere below if youre a boxer you dont need to fast !?? lol

people who are exempt are

1 ***8211; Sickness

Sickness means everything that means that a person is not healthy.

Ibn Qudaamah said: the scholars are agreed that it is permissible for the sick person not to fast in general. The basis of that is the aayah in which Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

***8220;but if any of you is ill or on a journey, the same number (should be made up) from other days***8221;[al-Baqarah 2:184]

It was narrated that Salamah ibn al-Akwa***8217; (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: ***8220;When this aayah was revealed ***8211; ***8216;And as for those who can fast with difficulty, (e.g. an old man), they have (a choice either to fast or) to feed a Miskeen (poor person) (for every day)***8217; [al-Baqarah 2:184 ***8211; interpretation of the meaning] ***8211; those who wanted not to fast could do that, and pay the fidyah (i.e., feed one poor person for each day). That remained the case until the following aayah was revealed, i.e., the verse:

***8216;And as for those who can fast with difficulty, (e.g. an old man), they have (a choice either to fast or) to feed a Miskeen (poor person) (for every day)***8217;

[al-Baqarah 2:185 ***8211; interpretation of the meaning] ***8211; so it abrogated it.***8221;

The sick person who fears that fasting may make his sickness worse or that it will slow down his recovery or damage a part of his body, has the option of not fasting, and indeed it is Sunnah for him not to fast and it is makrooh for him to complete his fast, because that may lead to his death. So he has to be cautious and protect himself. Moreover, if the sick person is very ill, that makes it permissible for him not to fast. But if a healthy person fears difficulty or tiredness, it is not permissible for him to break his fast, if all that happens to him when he fasts is that he becomes tired.

2 ***8211; Travelling

In order for traveling to result in a concession excusing one from fasting, the following conditions must be met:

a- The journey must be long enough that prayers may be shortened.

b- The traveler must not intend to settle in the place to which he travels.

c- His journey must not be for any sinful purpose, rather it should be for a sound purpose, according to the majority of scholars. That is because being allowed not to fast is a concession and relief that the sinner does not deserve on his journey, because the purpose of his journey is to commit sin ***8211; such as one who travels in order to commit banditry, for example.

Cancellation of the concession for traveling:

This concession of traveling is cancelled by two things:

(i) When the traveler returns home and enters his hometown, which is the place where he resides.

(ii) When the traveler decides to stay indefinitely, or for a lengthy period in one place, and the place is fit for settling in. Thus he becomes a resident (or non-traveller), so he should pray his prayers in full and not break his fast in Ramadaan, because the rulings on travel no longer apply to him.

3 ***8211; Pregnancy and breastfeeding

The fuqaha***8217; are agreed that pregnant and breastfeeding women may break their fast in Ramadaan, on the condition that they think there is a risk that they or their children may become ill or more ill, or be harmed or may die. The evidence for this concession in their case is the aayah (interpretation of the meaning:

***8220;and whoever is ill or on a journey, the same number [of days which one did not observe Sawm (fasts) must be made up] from other days***8221;[al-Baqarah 2:185]

This does not refer to merely being sick, for the sick person who will not be harmed by fasting is not allowed to break the fast; here sickness is mentioned as a metaphor for any situation where fasting when sick may cause harm. This is what is meant by sickness here. That may be the case in pregnancy and when breastfeeding, so these two cases are included in the concession of breaking the fast. The evidence that women in these cases are allowed not to fast is the hadeeth of Anas ibn Maalik al-Ka***8217;bi (may Allaah be pleased with him), who said that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ***8220;Allaah has relieved the traveler of fasting and half of prayer, and He has relieved the pregnant and breastfeeding woman of fasting.***8221;

4 ***8211; Senility and old age

Senility and old age refers to one who is old and has lost his strength, or who is approaching death, so that every day he becomes weaker, until he dies, or who is suffering from a terminal or incurable illness and has no hope of recovery. The evidence that it is prescribed for such people not to fast is the aayah (interpretation of the meaning):

***8220;And as for those who can fast with difficulty, (e.g. an old man), they have (a choice either to fast or) to feed a Miskeen (poor person) (for every day)***8221;[al-Baqarah 2:184]

Ibn ***8216;Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said that this aayah has not been abrogated, and it applies to old men and old women who cannot fast, so for each day they should feed one poor person.

5 ***8211; Intense hunger and thirst

If a person is overtaken by intense hunger or unbearable thirst, then he should break his fast and eat just as much as he needs to ward off that hunger, then he should refrain from eating for the rest of the day, and make up that fast later on.

The scholars added to intense hunger and thirst the fear of weakness when meeting the enemy, or fearing or expecting an attack, such as when one is surrounded. So if a fighter knows for sure or thinks it most likely that there will be fighting because he is facing the enemy, and he fears that fasting may make him weak when fighting, and he is not traveling, then he may break his fast before fighting.

6 ***8211; Compulsion

Compulsion means one person forcing another to do something or not to do something against his will, by means of threats.

[Hype job]

nice one.

people dont realize that just coz you box it doesnt mean you can stop fasting lol

non fasting for people in ramadhan is usually reserved for sick people who are on medication or people who are travelling long distances they dont have to fast.

boxing doesnt come into it, not fasting coz you have a boxing match is unislamic..

that ****ing racist above you doesnt lknow jack **** about anything lol

Ramadan's after the fight u dingleberry.

[shahida TKO]

Other ******'s work around Ramadan all the time.

examples please !?

[alexguiness]

of course just coz youre a boxer doesnt mean you dont fast.. google it and then you wont need to post up silly comments bro...

you see youre confused and i dont blame you.. other ****** sportsmen like mo farah who is a ****** but doesnt fast when he is running in ramadhan, which is totally wrong as running is not important as one of the pillars of islam whoch is fasting.

I am not confused.

My point is that what is more important to Khan?

1) The biggest fight / payday of his career to date

Or

2) Ramadan - which starts a few days AFTER the fight anyway?

That's it really - Ramadan may be important to ******s, but in actuality Khan does NOT put his Religion first - and he shouldn't feel he has to either.