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The Official Miguel Cotto-Canelo Alvarez Master Thread

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  • From my point of view, for nearly a decade every single Cotto fight has been decided by one thing alone - whether or not he can outgun his opponents. When they are about even he struggles heavily (Mosley, Clottey, Mayweather, Trout), and when he has been clearly outgunned he’s been stopped (Pacquiao, Margarito 1). Yes, Cotto can move very well, but his movement is offense minded, he uses it to get in position to land and punish his opponents until they break. However, against someone like Mayweather, he does get tagged frequently in the process.

    Look at the opponents he has beaten, in particular, the ones he's struggled with. You can see that his weakness isn't a particular style, but the physical match-up. There are few style similarities between those 6 fighters he lost to or struggled with, they really cover the gamut of possible combinations: offense minded, defense minded, tall, short, high volume, low volume, very mobile, not so mobile, counter punchers, pressure fighters, you name it. The one thing they all had in common was that Cotto couldn’t overpower any of them. That's nearly a decade, 5 trainers, 3 weight classes, and every boxing style that any fighter can face, yet the pattern of deciding his fights still persists.

    I agree that Canelo's weakness is mobile fighters, but even against someone as mobile as Lara he was still able to find his target, and I think Cotto will be a lot easier to get to. In other words, I believe Lara is a better pure boxer and more elusive than Cotto, and nothing came easy for Lara that night, so I don’t see Cotto having much success moving around for 12 rounds. What he could do better is create offense of his own, but then, the more offense minded he gets the more he falls into Canelo's wheelhouse. Which brings me back to my original point, If Cotto turns out to be the better conditioned and harder puncher of the two, I can definitely see him winning. If he isn't, it will be a long and bloody night for him.
    Last edited by IR0NFIST; 11-21-2015, 06:43 PM.

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    • Originally posted by LomaUsykKlichko View Post
      Anybody have a link for the untelevised undecard
      steaming for free on espn 3

      or just youtube "canelo vs cotto undercard steam" and it will be live streamed there to at 4pm PST

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      • Originally posted by PAC-BOY View Post
        Alberto Machado ...will win.
        Jayson Velez... will win.
        Guillermo Rigondeaux... will win.
        Randy Caballero... wil win.
        Francisco Vargas ... will win.

        Cotto vs Alvarez...cant call it!!!!!
        haskins already won bro

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        • Picking Cotto.

          I think he just boxes on a higher level.

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          • Go Canelo!!!

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            • Originally posted by STAX ON DECK View Post
              steaming for free on espn 3

              or just youtube "canelo vs cotto undercard steam" and it will be live streamed there to at 4pm PST
              Thanks man

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              • Originally posted by STAX ON DECK View Post
                your a joke

                canelo does everything better except for the jab which goes to cotto,canelos defensive is miles ahead of cottos,canelos slickness is underrated

                cotto gonna hit air all night,cotto is not "reborn" because he has a new trainer,smfh
                Quote me where I said this?

                I say the opposite, Cotto hasn't been reborn under Roach but he has regained some confidence and is fighting now as he did some years ago, rather than being reborn, he has regained. But I digress, we will see only in a few hours.

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                • Originally posted by FBLM View Post
                  Canelo stops cotto inside of 5 rounds!

                  I feel a knee happening in 6

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                  • Originally posted by Bardock View Post
                    And you acknowledge Alvarez was the better fighter with better skills after he outclasses then knocks Cotto the fck out. None of that "he was old, past his prime," blah blah blah
                    You won't hear that from me. I'm more of a Canelo fan post Mayweather than I am a fan of Cotto, although I grew up a Cotto fan. His recent comments and *****ing out of the GGG is ****.

                    But I never go against boxing knowledge and from what I've seen, Cotto is superior to Canelo in almost every facet. I may be wrong and I'll be happy to admit it. Canelo is a very good, up and coming guy, former title holder and this could be his fight to the next level, I hope it is but really, I can't see it going that way.

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                    • Originally posted by Trinidad_Fan View Post
                      I believe you misunderstood.
                      Wishful thinking about not having the Canelo fans backtracking after the fight.
                      ohhhh lol yeah well, most guys on this forum backtrack on everythiiiiing!

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