Comments Thread For: Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. Inks Contract With Al Haymon

[Bronx2245]

Good for Chavez Jr. Hope you can get out of the grip of that snake Arum. I hope Mikey Garcia is next!

[IMDAZED]

Funnily enough when La Bomba fought Ward fight negotiations were already in progress when he signed with Haymon so it was kinda considered a one off, but then Rodriguez recently fought again on the GGG - Rubio card so there's clearly lines of communication.

I'm guessing that given Haymons dearth of assets at LHW (he's got, basically Stevenson and Fonfara who've already fought and La Bomba who was coming off a loss) it made sense to work with HBO cos there was no realistic slot or call for a LHW fight on SHO and La Bomba had been outta the ring for nearly a year.

Is does kinda imply though that it's Haymon more than HBO that is the stumbling block - after all, if HBO are willing to televise La Bomba, why not other Haymon fighters?

It has to work for both sides. In this case, Rodriguez was perfect for HBO because they needed someone to showcase against Ward, their new toy who they were trying to build up.

[Citizen Koba]

I`ve heard that subsequent fight of La Bomba on HBO was negotiated by Haymon as part of an agreement to fight Ward. HBO honored its obligations, but televised Rodriguez undercard fight on HBO Latino, not main HBO.

Ah... that could explain it. AFAIK he's the only Haymon fighter that's fought on HBO this year but if there was already a deal in place it makes more sense.

thanks.

[Citizen Koba]

It has to work for both sides. In this case, Rodriguez was perfect for HBO because they needed someone to showcase against Ward, their new toy who they were trying to build up.

No I was talking more about the La Bomba fight on the GGG - Rubio U/C but it looks like Sancho Puncho has clarified the matter a little. At a guess it's likely La Bombas two fight deal had to be honoured within 12 months hence shoe-horning him on to the GGG - Rubio card 11 months and 2 days after the Ward fight.

Yeah... obviously HBO were really short on anyone to put in with Ward (and blasting out Grachev was seen a s quite impressive at the time) which put Haymon in the ideal position to bid-up Rodriguez' purse. As with Stevenson however, not much has happened for La Bomba since.

Can't help thinking it does look like Haymon is almost going out of his way to spoil (or at least profit from) many of the marquee fights HBO are trying to build fighters with though. La - Bomba vs Ward, Stevenson vs Kovalev, GGG vs JCC Jr, quite likely the reason HBO wasn't willing to upbid the Fonfara fight was due to what happened with Ward - Rodriguez.

[IMDAZED]

No I was talking more about the La Bomba fight on the GGG - Rubio U/C but it looks like Sancho Puncho has clarified the matter a little. At a guess it's likely La Bombas two fight deal had to be honoured within 12 months hence shoe-horning him on to the GGG - Rubio card 11 months and 2 days after the Ward fight.

Yeah... obviously HBO were really short on anyone to put in with Ward which put Haymon in the ideal position to bid-up Rodriguez' purse. As with Stevenson however, not much has happened for him since.

Can't help thinking it does look like Haymon is almost going out of his way to spoil (or at least profit from) many of the marquee fights HBO are trying to build fighters with though. La - Bomba vs Ward, Stevenson vs Kovalev, GGG vs JCC Jr, quite likely the reason HBO wasn't willing to upbid the Fonfara fight was due to what happened with Ward - Rodriguez.

Profit, yes. Spoil? I doubt his personal feelings are that invested. He's just making the best deals for himself and his fighters.

[Citizen Koba]

Profit, yes. Spoil? I doubt his personal feelings are that invested. He's just making the best deals for himself and his fighters.

I'm not talking about 'spoiling' as in taking some perverse pleasure in harming the sport, but as in harming a competitor - assuming the rumours about him working to start his own promotion and buying $20 mil worth of airtime to air his own fights are correct.

In that context it's entirely possible his programming will be going H2H with HBO so it makes sense from a business standpoint to hinder HBOs development of star names to rival his own stable and to seek to minimise HBOs profits..

Maybe I'm jumping the gun though. Let's wait and see how things pan out next year when it seems that Uncle Als plans look likely to come to fruition.

[IMDAZED]

I'm not talking about 'spoiling' as in taking some perverse pleasure in harming the sport, but as in harming a competitor - assuming the rumours about him working to start his own promotion and buying $20 mil worth of airtime to air his own fights are correct.

In that context it's entirely possible his programming will be going H2H with HBO so it makes sense from a business standpoint to hinder HBOs development of star names to rival his own stable and to seek to minimise HBOs profits..

Maybe I'm jumping the gun though. Let's wait and see how things pan out next year when it seems that Uncle Als plans look likely to come to fruition.

I hear ya. I think as a "promoter" Haymon would probably prefer to work with all three networks. I also think what you're saying is exactly what I said: It's not about "harming a competitor" per se. It's about maximizing his own profit.

[Pigeons]

Kathy Duva's last show on NBC is this weekend. Hopefully we see Haymon fighters on NBC before the end of the year.

[radiotracer]

And obesity...

Chavez just lost one year of his prime pro career

[Deevel916]

A guaranteed purse isn't an incentive, or at least it shouldn't be for fighters. That's what got Bradley messed up and now he knows he got sold a pipedream with that supposed $10m rematch "guarantee" against Pacquiao. Anyway, Arum never made an offer to Chavez that didn't include an extension, at least according to both Arum and Chavez. Every offer had that caveat.

It's like anything else in this world.

You walk into a cell phone store for a new phone. You can either pay $199 for a new iphone on contract or pay $700 with no contract.