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  • #71
    Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
    Fighting khan in England I mean, would give him brownie points that he can travel. But if he beat Khan, Pac, and GGG at 160, he would be up there with SRL I think.
    But as of right now, Floyd is top 40.
    Answer me this, what would beating a glass jawed Amir Khan make a difference in England? He'll make more money in Vegas.

    Pacquiao won't fight him, so that's out of his hands. When Manny grows a pair and stops letting Bob Arum conduct his business then maybe this is a realistic opportunity. Don't forget Manny turned down Floyd twice.

    GGG?

    Prove me wrong, you'll ignore this post as always and not reply because you know I am right.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Pretty Boy32 View Post
      Answer me this, what would beating a glass jawed Amir Khan make a difference in England? He'll make more money in Vegas.

      Pacquiao won't fight him, so that's out of his hands. When Manny grows a pair and stops letting Bob Arum conduct his business then maybe this is a realistic opportunity. Don't forget Manny turned down Floyd twice.

      GGG?

      Prove me wrong, you'll ignore this post as always and not reply because you know I am right.
      Amir Khan is a good opponent for Floyd. Judging by recent form, Mayweather will probably duck him, too dangerous an opponent.

      Pac has been begging for a fight since before the dawn of time, the turn down of the fights in the past have been for obvious reasons and were, also obviously, nothing more than a TMT stunt for FLOYD to get out of the fight and make it appear that it wasn't his fault (=save face during cowardice.)

      Floyd ducking of Pac = most disgraceful act in all of boxing history.

      Judging by recent form, Floyd has very low chances of beating Pacquiao now.

      GGG would destroy Floyd within a few rounds, beyond all doubt.

      Unbelievable what you posted!

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      • #73
        Not quite top 10 yet, more like 15-20 for now. A couple good wins to finish off his career could break him into top 10 though.

        Also, we have to see how his opponents like Canelo turn out. IF he goes on to do big things it might be seen as an even better win in 10 years time, we'll see.

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        • #74
          When he asked his opponent to wear Pillow Gloves, when he asked to drain a fighter to 152 that genius match making

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          • #75
            I'm still waiting for "that".

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            • #76
              Originally posted by ***1048;ATAS View Post
              After he he beat Victor Ortiz
              Great photo. Is that a depiction of Kovalev's mug on B-hops t-shirt?

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              • #77
                Top Ten ATG!! YES!!
                At promotion!!!
                He learned from wrestling that playing the "heel" (badguy) will draw in the non-fans and acting like a fool will draw in the non-boxing fans. Very smart ploy because most fans today don't understand the differences between amateur and professional boxing so he gets away with not dominating through aggression also is unable to work in combination and will not make the effort to close a fight out!

                As for being an ATG Fighter.............please stop!!! He isn't a top twenty welter to begin with! He might be a top 25 at 140 but when in comes to ATG's I don't count the junior weight classes. So he's a lightweight or welter either way he's KO'd by the greats in those divisions.
                Great eye hand coordination and a great thinker in the ring but he lacks a lot to be considered an ATG! Right now there are no ATG's in boxing!
                Ray.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
                  That's ******ed at best. One of the dumbest posts I have read this year.

                  Marquez: 126, 130, 135, 140, 147
                  Mayweather: 130, 135, 140, 147, 154

                  Now how the hell would Mayweather fighting GGG be the same as Marquez fighting Mayweather? Mayweather has already moved 5 weight classes, same as Marquez. Marquez fighting Mayweather would have been like Floyd jumping from 140 to 154 to fight someone like Winky Wright back in the day.
                  No need to start calling names kid
                  Mayweather is a natural 147 pounder and has been, he couldn't drop down two pounds against Marquez and was fined, so thats where your problem in your "comparison" is. Marquez when up to fight Mayweather,but then went back down to lightweight for his next two fights as he felt he didn't belong in that weight division as he was too slow and heavy.

                  Form Floyds natural weight of 147lbs, Thats moving up close to three weight divisions to fight GGG from his natural weight class.

                  How old is Mayweather anyways? we will compare how old Marquez was in his career when he made the jump. I'll tell you, Mayweather is 36yrs old now, same age Marquez was when he made his jump of three weight divisions against a faster, stronger, and heavier fighter.

                  Marquez moving up three weight divisions to fight Mayweather = Mayweather moving up three weight divisions to fight GGG.
                  Last edited by ElMeroChingon; 11-02-2014, 04:26 PM.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
                    Also: The only fighter Marquez was able to compete with above 140 was Pacquiao.

                    What!? I scored Marquez-Bradley a draw. How can you watch that fight and say it was not competitive? Marquez won on one scorecard and lost only by 1 point on another scorecard. I predicted Bradley would win clearly, because of styles, but I was wrong. JMM did very well vs Bradley and he showed against Pacquiao and Bradley that he is a legit fighter at WW. The way he schooled Alvarado at WW, a pretty big powerful guy, also solidified that JMM is no joke at 147.

                    How can you say Pacquiao is the only guy he's been competitive with when he basically beat Pacquiao twice, close fight with Bradley, and schooled Alvarado? In his 7 fights above 135, he's been beaten decisively only once but you guys hate who that "Once" was against. Say anything to discredit. If it was the other way around and Pac schooled Marquez in 2009 at WW, then Marquez KO'ed Mayweather years later, you'd be singing a different tune.
                    Hey, you can call Alverado a top tier p4p fighter for the sake of your argument all you want, but it's not true.

                    Truth is that Marquez only notable opponent was Bradley, and he looked terrible, slow, off balanced.

                    No one is is deliberately discrediting Floyd, we're calling it like it is.

                    If beating a fighter who jumped three weight divisions for the first time is such a great win for FLoyd, Why dont Floyd fans want to see a great win for Floyd against GGG? after all, weight does not matter, skills do.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by daggum View Post
                      ah yes i remember when floyd pretended like he wanted the winky fight then when winky accepted he suddenly demanded more money. but floyd doesn't duck anyone
                      Stop changing history. Bob Arum demanded more money, he changed the goal post overnight. Mayweather had nothing to do with the fight falling through.

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