Comments Thread For: Joe Calzaghe: Hopkins in a Dangerous, Difficult Fight

[Reloaded]

I actually remember quite the opposite. It was Joe's detractors that claimed that he was in over his head against Lacy.

I guess it depends what jumps of the page at ya , you often see guys say all the blah blah fans want this , and I never seen any of them say it lol .

[daggum]

I guess it depends what jumps of the page at ya , you often see guys say all the blah blah fans want this , and I never seen any of them say it lol .

some people said baldomir would beat floyd so by this logic baldomir must be good and it qualifies as a great win.

[Foreign Soil]

i would think in a fight where hardly anything happens you would go with the guy who is landing punches not missing. everytime hopkins hit the ropes he spun out, countered calzaghe then spun out, or made calzaghe miss and spun out. calzaghe did nothing when hopkins hit the ropes besides miss and get countered of course. simply being on the ropes doesn't mean you are losing. its what happens on the ropes that determines who is winning. if you are staying there and getting hit like floyd-maidana 1 early rounds it's a bad thing. if you are on the ropes and countering/avoiding punches it can be a good thing. once again trying hard is not a scoring criteria landing punches and defense are. ring generalship if you can't pin your man down and keep running into punches? no.

You are overstating the number of times Hopkins made Calzaghe miss and pay. If it happened like that, then Hopkins would've had no trouble winning a wide decision on US soil.

[Balloonknot]

wrong again what has his career been like since he faced Bernard???.....Exactly!

[daggum]

You are overstating the number of times Hopkins made Calzaghe miss and pay. If it happened like that, then Hopkins would've had no trouble winning a wide decision on US soil.

no i'm not. watch the calzaghe deception on youtube if you want to see for yourself. it happened over and over but you just thought calzaghe was landing when it was actually hopkins landing. there were many times when the announcers or crowd thought calzaghe landed simply because he was throwing when it was hopkins catching calzaghe with sneaky punches. being able to stand there and make your opponent hit air or shoulders with 4 or 5 punches then catch him completely flush is much harder than simply coming forward and throwing punches that don't land. it should also be rewarded much more when it comes to scoring.

calzaghe was the a-side in that fight and the crowd was overwhelmingly pro calzaghe so its no surprise he won a decision. calzaghe-jones was also set as long as calzaghe won so there was money to be made. the judges just got it wrong for whatever reason. maybe it was corruption, maybe they were just fooled by the crowd and incompetent. we know what really happened and calzaghe was outboxed quite easily for most of the fight. well most of us know.

[jas]

You are overstating the number of times Hopkins made Calzaghe miss and pay. If it happened like that, then Hopkins would've had no trouble winning a wide decision on US soil.

So how did one judge score for shumenov on US soil?

I'll wait....

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So how did one judge score for shumenov on US soil?

I'll wait....

essentially what he is saying is that boxing judges are never wrong

[IronDanHamza]

Do you rate Ward's resume? It's worse than Calzaghe's.

No not really.

Ward's resume isn't even good and you're acting like it's great thing that Calzaghe's is better.

And even then it's not even that much better.

[jas]

essentially what he is saying is that boxing judges are never wrong

Premise of his post is wrong too.

Hopkins has notoriously never got the nod on close decisions other than winky wright fight.

[IronDanHamza]

So you thought Lacey was terrible even before Calzaghe beat him? Yeah right.

You have no idea how good Chris Eubank was, btw. Outside of the UK, Eubank would be my pick as the most under-rated boxer of all time. He was enormously strong, unpredictable, granite chinned and could hit like a mule.

Erm, yes I did. His fight his Omar Sheika was televised and I watched it and consciously decided to not forget that it happened unlike most people.

And you're talking about a prime Eubank. Calzaghe fought Eubank in 1997, on a weeks notice and in which he hadn't had a decent win In years.

Epic stuff.