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  • Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Post
    Two different jmm bruh. The one that floyd fought was a career superfeather, while the one the one that ko'd pac had already adjusted to the weight.
    Go back and check JMM fight night weights for the last few years before the Mayweather fight and tell me how much "adjusting" needed to be done. He has been coming into the ring as a ww for years now, just like Pac.

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    • Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
      Give me a break , he dont want to fight WWs because they stand a very big chance of beating him , thats ducking if you think about it , they know if they lose there is no chance of a Mayweather fight , so they fight smaller division fighters at CWs which is lame .

      Again your opinion is all you got woulda coulda shoulda , but the reality is he is avoiding prime hungry WWs , while holding a WW title he fights 5 JWs in a row .

      you say he dosent care about maintaining legacy , obviously but he cares about winning and thats why he wont fight WW world champions , he will just lower legacy by fighting Algieri and Jessie Vargas ,,,,,,, something up the sht in that or Manny is ducking fighters that might beat him .

      He was weighing 148 pounds on fight night fighting Marquez , he weighed 147 pounds on the night against Oscar who was 145 , I agree he walks around at about 150-155 , same as Floyd who was weighing 150 on the night against Canelo , now here is what I find confusing , Floyd can give Canelo 20 pounds but Manny cant fight WWs , Floyd can school JMM weighing the same as Manny did when he got iced , fact is Floyd is within a few pounds of Manny but he is expected to fight MWs but Manny is ok to fight a stream of JWWs .
      I think what is obvious here is that your hate for Manny and probably your man crush for Floyd is clouding your judgement to realize that Manny is already an all time great even if he doesn't ever fight any of the guys you mentioned or if he fights them at a CW for that matter. Geez, what the fcuk is wrong with some of you illiterates? Manny is already the smaller guy in any fight he goes into including at 140. Are you so fcuking blind to see that or perhaps your brain is so disconnected from your eyes? You act like Floyd hasn't fought CWs either and by the way, Floyd never weighs 150 on fight night, you can spin it any way you want, there is a reason Floyd doesn't do fight night weigh-ins but you probably don't know or won't mention it 'cos you have no objectivity.

      Then you come on here moaning about how Manny got iced but fail to mention that Manny didn't really have to fight Marquez more than twice but like a true warrior he did, and he paid in the long run because of Marquez's familiarity with his style. You idiots are so quick to jump on that and give Floyd the victory all because he beats Marquez knowing damn well that triangle theories don't work in boxing or perhaps you don't know that. Ali, SRL, SRR (still regarded the best ever) got iced, did that take away from their greatness? Floyd got you illiterates so brainwashed that a loss diminishes a fighter hence you have to take as little risk as possible.

      Sure Marquez might be that one fighter that troubles Pac but has it ever occurred to you idiots that Pac might very well be that one fighter that troubles Floyd which is why Floyd has been reluctant to take that fight? Trainer A says he beat Pac and this other one says the same, and you holding on to that? Do you know how ******ed that sounds? You say those things when one fighter is so much better than the other and NEWSFLASH, Floyd is not better than Manny. They both have their strengths and weaknesses. One is better at certain things than the other, which is why they still have to get in the ring and fight. That is the only way you know who is BETTER.
      Last edited by Hands of Stone; 10-28-2014, 11:48 PM.

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      • I like Maidana. He is an exciting fighter and I would even buy a PPV card if he was headlining it. That being said, I don't give him much of a chance against Pac. The fight would be like a Pac vs Rios kind of a fight. It would be a pretty much a shutout for Pac.

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        • Originally posted by whirlout View Post
          I think what is obvious here is that your hate for Manny and probably your man crush for Floyd is clouding your judgement to realize that Manny is already an all time great even if he doesn't ever fight any of the guys you mentioned or if he fights them at a CW for that matter. Geez, what the fcuk is wrong with some of you illiterates? Manny is already the smaller guy in any fight he goes into including at 140. Are you so fcuking blind to see that or perhaps your brain is so disconnected from your eyes? You act like Floyd hasn't fought CWs either and by the way, Floyd never weighs 150 on fight night, you can spin it any way you want, there is a reason Floyd doesn't do fight night weigh-ins but you probably don't know or won't mention it 'cos you have no objectivity.

          Then you come on here moaning about how Manny got iced but fail to mention that Manny didn't really have to fight Marquez more than twice but like a true warrior he did, and he paid in the long run because of Marquez's familiarity with his style. You idiots are so quick to jump on that and give Floyd the victory all because he beats Marquez knowing damn well that triangle theories don't work in boxing or perhaps you don't know that. Ali, SRL, SRR (still regarded the best ever) got iced, did that take away from their greatness? Floyd got you illiterates so brainwashed that a loss diminishes a fighter hence you have to take as little risk as possible.

          Sure Marquez might be that one fighter that troubles Pac but has it ever occurred to you idiots that Pac might very well be that one fighter that troubles Floyd which is why Floyd has been reluctant to take that fight? Trainer A says he beat Pac and this other one says the same, and you holding on to that? Do you know how ******ed that sounds? You say those things when one fighter is so much better than the other and NEWSFLASH, Floyd is not better than Manny. They both have their strengths and weaknesses. One is better at certain things than the other, which is why they still have to get in the ring and fight. That is the only way you know who is BETTER.
          Im a fan off both but yes Mayweather is better then Pac. whether Pac wins or Mayweather wins, Mayweather is technically better, defensively better, insanely higher ring IQ, speed for speed we wont till they are in the ring together. Mayweather is the better boxer that should not be disputed. What should be disputed is who would win the fight. Because Ali was a way better boxer than Frazier and Frazier defeated Ali.

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          • Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh View Post
            Im a fan off both but yes Mayweather is better then Pac. whether Pac wins or Mayweather wins, Mayweather is technically better, defensively better, insanely higher ring IQ, speed for speed we wont till they are in the ring together. Mayweather is the better boxer that should not be disputed. What should be disputed is who would win the fight. Because Ali was a way better boxer than Frazier and Frazier defeated Ali.
            Yeah I agree with this post. Floyd's the better "boxer" by a sizable margin. Whereas Manny is the better "fighter", if that makes any sense. I think most of us know that there's a big difference between the two terms.
            Last edited by Mike D; 10-29-2014, 12:09 AM.

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            • pacquiao will duck, of course.. chino puts him in a coma

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              • Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Post
                I see maidana continues to duck thurman
                so hes ducking thurman to face somebody better .. i thought it was the other way around , you duck to fight an easier guy.. thurman is a nobody and has done nothing

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                • Originally posted by elishua F View Post
                  pacquiao will duck, of course.. chino puts him in a coma
                  I'm sorry, wrong answer, wanna try again?

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                  • Originally posted by Mike D View Post
                    Yeah I agree with this post. Floyd's the better "boxer" by a sizable margin. Whereas Manny is the better "fighter", if that makes any sense. I think most of know that there's a big difference between the two terms.
                    Agreed and I think the wilder Pac of the lighter weights was more dangerous due to the difficulty of timing him. As Roach tamed and trained Pac and Pac became a better technically rounded boxer it became easier to time him. Lets also not forget of Mayweather in the early days when he was Pretty boy Floyd, when he was extremely offensive and knocking out everybody in the lighter divisions. At one point in time Mayweather was at about 30 wins with over 20 knock outs.

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                    • Originally posted by elishua F View Post
                      so hes ducking thurman to face somebody better .. i thought it was the other way around , you duck to fight an easier guy.. thurman is a nobody and has done nothing
                      Maidana did duck Thurman click the links. the three articles are in chronological order.

                      http://www.boxingscene.com/schaefer-...thurman--54365

                      http://www.boxingscene.com/maidana-o...-update--54487

                      http://www.boxingscene.com/team-maid...-issues--54571

                      This is the very rare instance where the the "duck" was not only documented but admitted. They took the fight because they never heard of Thurman and as soon as they saw tape of him they blatantly refuse to fight him, and have avoided him ever since.

                      And the person Maidana fought instead was Jesus soto caras, followed by Angel martinez, and josesito lopez. So yes Maidan ducked Thurman to fight 3 easier guys.

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