Comments Thread For: Kovalev: To Become a Legend, I Have To Beat a Legend!

[Wicky]

Listen you full blown ******. Back in the real world people and fighters can age both slowly and as the expression indicates, rapidly! Journalists mention Hopkins age because he DEFIES it you ***ing pinhead. Let me clue you in since it is obvious you either have to beg, borrow, or steal a clue since you are helpless at finding one on your own. It is a FACT that fighters can decline rapidly from performing at high levels for a number of fights - to looking like they lost it, shot, done in their next fight! This is NOT ARGUABLE]! Child, I have watched this happen for over 25 years! Little one, If Hopkins performs like he has in his last fights in the kovalev fight and wins or loses, no one can use the age excuse! THAT is used when a fighter is finally shot and that CAN happen in one fight, again, NOT ARGUABLE! Fighters often do not realize that what they had in their prior fights, does not always show up in the gym, and then when they step into the ring they realize the hard way that they see the punches and cannot and they NO LONGER HAVE IT! Damn, you are like a torso that lost its arms and legs and teeth and are trying to bite with your damn gums! That would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic watching you implode. I've spoken to boxers who have talked about how they realized one night in the ring, they were finally old and could not perform ANYWHERE NEAR the level they did so shut the FK up!

Yes, they realised one night, but it didn’t suddenly happen one night. They got old gradually (fact), in most cases with a few successively weaker performances.

[BTL]

Yes, they realised one night, but it didn’t suddenly happen one night. They got old gradually (fact), in most cases with a few successively weaker performances.

The dedication to go back and forth between u guys is impressive.

[richardt]

Yes, they realised one night, but it didn***8217;t suddenly happen one night. They got old gradually (fact), in most cases with a few successively weaker performances.

SOME fighters get old between fights which is what the expression emanates from. One fighter a former 168 pound contender said from his last few fights where he was competitive and felt great all of a sudden for his next fight which was 6 months later, during training he did not feel right, everything was harder to do and he still took the fight against a younger contender and he said that night he realized he had nothing left, he couldn't react, he couldn't respond, his legs didn't cooperate. He was in perfect health but he was finally old in boxing terms. It CAN happen over night as the expression implies or in reality over a period of 3-6 months that manifests in a single evening in a boxing match. In his previous fights, he still had IT. In that last fight, he no longer had IT.

[Wicky]

SOME fighters get old between fights. One fighter a former 168 pound contender said from his last few fights where he was competitive and felt great all of a sudden for his next fight which was 6 months later, during training he did not feel right, everything was harder to do and he still took the fight against a younger contender and he said that night he realized he had nothing left, he couldn't react, he couldn't respond, his legs didn't cooperate. He was in perfect but he was finally old in boxing terms. It CAN happen over night as the expression implies or in reality over a period of 3-6 months that manifests in a single evening in a boxing match. In his previous fights, he still had IT. In that last fight, he no longer had IT.

He may have suddenly become aware of it, but it didn’t happen suddenly. It happened gradually like it happens gradually for 100% of other human beings.

[Wicky]

The dedication to go back and forth between u guys is impressive.

Some peeps just need schoolin'

[richardt]

He may have suddenly become aware of it, but it didn***8217;t happen suddenly. It happened gradually like it happens gradually for 100% of other human beings.

No, rapid aging is a fact in the science industry. Environmental, diet, physical stress other elements CAN cause faster aging and twins have been used to prove that certain factors can make a person age faster than others or faster than he usually does. But that's not the point, it is not just the aging, it is when it all cumulates on a given night where a fighter FINALLY is not what he once was, that is what is attributed to being OLD overnight. Some fighters through diet, better training, and developing skills have looked better than when they were younger.

And t's not about a fighter "suddenly becoming aware", they cannot do what they just did 6 months earlier. A buddy who was a boxer experienced this rapid loss of abilities because he knows he didn't just become suddenly aware, he was not able to train and fight like he once did, not even close. That's not some new awareness - that's being hit by a brick! The fact is, a fighter can show up in the ring one day and no longer have it when they still had it for the prior 5-10 fights. It's not entirely about rapid aging or slow aging, it is about one fight to the next. Fighters know when they go from doing so many things in the ring for 37 fights and then that 38th fight, they are not what they used to be.

[Wicky]

No, rapid aging is a fact in the science industry. Environmental, diet, physical stress other elements CAN cause faster aging and twins have been used to prove that certain factors can make a person age faster than others or faster than he usually does. But that's not the point, it is not just the aging, it is when it all cumulates on a given night where a fighter FINALLY is not what he once was, that is what is attributed to being OLD overnight. Some fighters through diet, better training, and developing skills have looked better than when they were younger.

And t's not about a fighter "suddenly becoming aware", they cannot do what they just did 6 months earlier. A buddy who was a boxer experienced this rapid loss of abilities because he knows he didn't just become suddenly aware, he was not able to train and fight like he once did, not even close. That's not some new awareness - that's being hit by a brick! The fact is, a fighter can show up in the ring one day and no longer have it when they still had it for the prior 5-10 fights. It's not entirely about rapid aging or slow aging, it is about one fight to the next. Fighters know when they go from doing so many things in the ring for 37 fights and then that 38th fight, they are not what they used to be.

You’re arguing nonsense for the sake of it now.

Ageing is linear. Period. The story is the same for everyone with a limited amount of deviation. All people hit a peak and then gradually get weaker. Give me one tangible example of that not being true… as in a name not some random story about twins ?

[richardt]

You***8217;re arguing nonsense for the sake of it now.

Ageing is linear. Period. The story is the same for everyone with a limited amount of deviation. All people hit a peak and then gradually get weaker. Give me one tangible example of that not being true***8230; as in a name not some random story about twins ?

Apparently now you cannot even remember my LAST post because I did not argue that aging cannot be linear, I said that aging can also be NON-LINEAR, AKA rapid! This is not arguable at all! MANY things cause the body to age faster or slower, that is a scientific fact! And the FACT is a fighter can between one fight and the next, no longer have it. BOXERS have experienced this! Not up for debate!

[Wicky]

Apparently now you cannot even remember my LAST post because I did not argue that aging cannot be linear, I said that aging can also be rapid! This is not arguable at all! MANY things cause the body to age faster or slower, that is a scientific fact! And the FACT is a fighter can between one fight and the next, no longer have it. BOXERS have experienced this! Not up for debate!

They’ve experienced the crescendo of their gradual decline. Not a sudden change but the point where their cumulative loss becomes obvious… same linear process that affects everybody else.

[richardt]

They***8217;ve experienced the crescendo of their gradual decline. Not a sudden change but the point where their cumulative loss becomes obvious***8230; same linear process that affects everybody else.

No, it is a sudden change in SOME, not ALL athletes, like being able to previously do 75 pushups to breathing hard after only 30, like being able to go 12 hard rounds in the gym to being able to only go 7 and then feeling like collapsing - all between the middle point of two fights. Again, anyone can age at a faster or slower rate at given points of their lives. Even different body parts age differently. The BOTTOM LINE - REGARDLESS of slow or fast aging which is a fact in itself, is that a fighter can no longer have it in fight number 38 where he had it in the previous 37. Call it whatever you like or whatever leads up to it, but it is what it is and is very noticeable and where the aged overnight expression came from, a serious difference in performance from having it, to no longer having it in the ring.

Aging can manifest itself in increments or immediately when it comes to the performance of some athletes.