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  • #61
    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
    different class as far as resume.

    his resume is nowhere near theirs.

    but in a fight he can hang with them.

    maybe floyd is a stretch but manny would be in trouble.
    I disagree, I think both are completely different levels.

    I don't see anything from Tszyu to suggest he wouldn't get completely dominated by Floyd and completely battered and stopped by Pacquaio.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
      Actually he does work inside when he chooses to. Castillo I in the later rounds was a prime example. Zab. Chavez. Etc. Don't know where you get that from.

      Floyd had better timing btw. And definitely didn't say footspeed was the reason.
      never said floyd can't fight inside. he's good inside.

      but he rarely forces an inside fight. occasionally yes but he's usually content with picking them apart outside and fights inside when his opponents goes in.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
        never said floyd can't fight inside. he's good inside.

        but he rarely forces an inside fight. occasionally yes but he's usually content with picking them apart outside and fights inside when his opponents goes in.
        He rarely has to. It's clear Mayweather tailors his style to each opponent.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
          I disagree, I think both are completely different levels.

          I don't see anything from Tszyu to suggest he wouldn't get completely dominated by Floyd and completely battered and stopped by Pacquaio.
          i think you underrate KT too much.

          floyd might win but KT wouldn't be dominated, maybe floyd can make him look silly at moments.

          pac would eat a lot of rights. kostya's right is not something you'd want a lot of unless you smother it. pac is not the smothering type post-roach.

          if pac fights like his crazy pre-roach style then he can wear kostya down but that means more chance to land something big.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
            gatti was good money plus floyd was still new to 140.

            i think gatti was floyd's 1st ppv.

            afterwards there was talk of kostya-floyd.

            kostya was deciding between floyd and hatton.

            hatton was the better money.

            remember this was before floyd became popular and wasn't much money.
            Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
            Just look at the timeline and you'll see why. Tszyu was someone Floyd respected greatly -- and also called out. I believe he said he was the only other A-class fighter in the division.
            Well, I'm just saying, wasn't Floyd expected to beat Gatti anyway? I think going after the undisputed champion at that point would have meant a lot more than going after a limited opponent that people expected him to beat.

            I guess that's when the whole "Money" character started.

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            • #66
              Phillips stood in the pocket and outlasted Tszyu in a shootout, after absorbing flush bombs throughout the fight. The idea that Mayweather could/would duplicate that sort of performance is beyond the point of being laughable.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                He rarely has to. It's clear Mayweather tailors his style to each opponent.
                i don't think so.

                if anything floyd forces his opponents to fight his fight.

                floyd makes a lot of little adjustments but his style usually stays the same.

                ppl make a big deal about fighters being multi-faceted blah blah...

                lesser fighters have to adjust and fight different depending on opp.

                guys like floyd don't usually. the greats make you adjust to them and fight their fight.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
                  i think you underrate KT too much.

                  floyd might win but KT wouldn't be dominated, maybe floyd can make him look silly at moments.

                  pac would eat a lot of rights. kostya's right is not something you'd want a lot of unless you smother it. pac is not the smothering type post-roach.

                  if pac fights like his crazy pre-roach style then he can wear kostya down but that means more chance to land something big.
                  I think I rate him fairly. Generally I think he's an overrated fighter.

                  I don't see Pacquaio having any issues (brutally) outboxing him. His jab will get countered all night and Pacquaio's speed and combinations are going to be a nightmare. Tszyu will land punches like all of Pacquaio's opponents but there's no way he beats him.

                  I wouldn't expect him to win 3 rounds against Floyd.

                  I just don't see anything to suggest otherwise.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Mr. Punch-Out!! View Post
                    Well, I'm just saying, wasn't Floyd expected to beat Gatti anyway? I think going after the undisputed champion at that point would have meant a lot more than going after a limited opponent that people expected him to beat.

                    I guess that's when the whole "Money" character started.
                    didn't i just tell you there was floyd-kostya fight talks BUT KOSTYA CHOSE HATTON?

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Mr. Punch-Out!! View Post
                      Well, I'm just saying, wasn't Floyd expected to beat Gatti anyway? I think going after the undisputed champion at that point would have meant a lot more than going after a limited opponent that people expected him to beat.

                      I guess that's when the whole "Money" character started.
                      No, Floyd wanted Tszyu.

                      When that couldn't happen, Gatti was the next highest ranked fighter.

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