Andrade backing out of Charlo fight?

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  • PureBoxingCEO
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    #61
    Lara would beat him in Showtime or HBO. Main event or undercard

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    • Mr. Philadel
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      #62
      Originally posted by MasterPlan
      Boo for Boo-Boo.

      who is he gonna fight now, Sergio Mora?
      for real!!.....BOOOOOOOO

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      • Ringlife
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        #63
        Andrade vs Charlo is an awful fight anyways I'm glad this sh##ty fight isn't happening.

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        • The Gambler1981
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          #64
          Originally posted by Bigg Rigg
          Honestly, I'm about to stop watching boxing. I think we all should. We basically acknowledge that fighters don't get decisions vs Haymon fighters. That means this **** is rigged!!!
          That is not a Haymon thing it is a boxing thing, you never expect a guy to get the benefit of the doubt on the other fights "home turf". It is part of where having to beat the champion comes from, because you do literally have to beat the champion historically on their "home turf" where you aren't getting close calls. You can call it rigged but that is part of the appeal of toppling a real champion because you had to beat them at their game really.

          I know who I expect to get the decision in every fight I watch pretty much, because lots of unexpected stuff also happens.

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          Now as for the actual fight it was kind of meh but it was decent same as the Korobov fight. So while neither is really any great loss to his career it is starting to make him look bad, but that can all be fixed with good performances in the ring which he is capable of. He is kind of in a weird career spot but he should be focused on building his name, not fighting is not doing that but he still has time.
          Last edited by The Gambler1981; 10-25-2014, 11:00 AM.

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          • deanrw
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            #65
            Originally posted by Fetta
            Everyone else this is a huge huge duck. Hes scared!

            But since he mentioned Haymon watch the out for spins.

            It sure looks like one. First it was the fight against Korobov on an HBO date, then he decides no I will stay at jr middleweight and go to where all the jr middles are, and then comes back full circle, but with no fight lined up.

            The guy is either paranoid or does not have true confidence in himself

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            • The Gambler1981
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              #66
              Originally posted by deanrw
              It sure looks like one. First it was the fight against Korobov on an HBO date, then he decides no I will stay at jr middleweight and go to where all the jr middles are, and then comes back full circle, but with no fight lined up.

              The guy is either paranoid or does not have true confidence in himself
              It is that weird position guys get in boxing where they have made it a bit but not quite enough to really get the big fights they need to advance further quickly but end up in paralysis drifting downward because the fights aren't quite what they want.

              In boxing generally speaking you do have to do 5 years of hard work to become an overnight success and Andrade maybe needs 2 solid years of work to hope for any super big fights. He could get lucky but that would likely happen one way or the other so best to put in the work and force the break eventually rather than waiting around on it.

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                #67
                Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                That is not a Haymon thing it is a boxing thing, you never expect a guy to get the benefit of the doubt on the other fights "home turf". It is part of where having to beat the champion comes from, because you do literally have to beat the champion historically on their "home turf" where you aren't getting close calls. You can call it rigged but that is part of the appeal of toppling a real champion because you had to beat them at their game really.

                I know who I expect to get the decision in every fight I watch pretty much, because lots of unexpected stuff also happens.
                And in this case, Andrade is the champ and would be on an all Haymon card, on the west coast against one of Al's young up and comers. And Charlo would get the higher purse probably since Haymon takes care of his guys.

                It would be Andrade to has to go above and beyond to have a shot at a draw. I'm glad he sees through this because I would hate to see politics derail his career. If Charlo wants the title shot beat somebody in the top 10 and come over to the east coast to get that work.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                  That is not a Haymon thing it is a boxing thing, you never expect a guy to get the benefit of the doubt on the other fights "home turf". It is part of where having to beat the champion comes from, because you do literally have to beat the champion historically on their "home turf" where you aren't getting close calls. You can call it rigged but that is part of the appeal of toppling a real champion because you had to beat them at their game really.

                  I know who I expect to get the decision in every fight I watch pretty much, because lots of unexpected stuff also happens.

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                  Now as for the actual fight it was kind of meh but it was decent same as the Korobov fight. So while neither is really any great loss to his career it is starting to make him look bad, but that can all be fixed with good performances in the ring which he is capable of. He is kind of in a weird career spot but he should be focused on building his name, not fighting is not doing that but he still has time.
                  Even if you're the champion vs Haymon guy you won't get the decision.

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                  • The Gambler1981
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by PBP
                    And in this case, Andrade is the champ and would be on an all Haymon card, on the west coast against one of Al's young up and comers. And Charlo would get the higher purse probably since Haymon takes care of his guys.

                    It would be Andrade to has to go above and beyond to have a shot at a draw. I'm glad he sees through this because I would hate to see politics derail his career. If Charlo wants the title shot beat somebody in the top 10 and come over to the east coast to get that work.
                    Yea it would be kind of silly for Andrade to do that unless he was getting paid for that risk. I think Andrade could win but the benefit of the doubt would go to Charlo and in a fight that could stink that is an easy one to rob since no one will care at all.

                    That is probably the messed up part Charlo was probably getting comparable money, when in this situation a champion should make a killing.

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                    • The Gambler1981
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Bigg Rigg
                      Even if you're the champion vs Haymon guy you won't get the decision.
                      Champion was a general term but in this case the champion would have to beat the challenger because he would be on the challengers home turf. Home turf was the point not champion, but normally a fight with a champion is on the champions home turf.

                      It happens with other champs they just normally get paid huge for taking a big risk of losing their belt.

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