Has Ward fought anyone as skilled/good as Kovalev/Golovkin?

[The Problem Child]

Tell em King. ANYBODY with SOME COMMON SENSE and who actually understands the sport know Triple G would literally obliterate Andrea.

For gods sakes lol, Imagine what GGG would do to this bum:

[nubianpiye]

Yes, Froch, Dawson, Kessler hell Bika has a better resume than both.

[King_]

yeah ward is wicked overrated. his only good wins are froch and kessler. fought the weakest opposition in the super 6. dude , dawg, ese.....i scored the bika fight a draw. ward is garbage and i hope he never fights again. dirtiest boxer in the sport. quack

Calm down with the trolling. This is a serious thread.

Dawson said he would come down to 168 on his own free will. No draining excuse. Dawson got whooped. Ward beat Carl Froch with 1 hand with relative ease, Only John Keane had the correct score, and Yes Kessler, Ward beat him too. Edwin Rodriguez has more skill than Kovalev, But Kovalev would definitely beat Edwin Rodriguez. And lets not forget Arthur Abraham.

EDWIN RODRIGUEZ AKA "the 168lb Danny Garcia" more skilled then Sergey Kovalev? What planet are you on dude? Lmao.


What makes/made Carl Froch, Mikkel Kessler and Arthur Abraham so special? Can you elaborate please? Those guys are all severely overrated..... they excel at NOTHING. They're all average, at best. Just like Golovkin haters call Geale.

So if you can't give an answer to that, with that said what's the difference between Golovkin beating a top 5 MW and Ward beating top 5 SMW's (obviously Ward beat more of them. but Golovkin has been ducked by every other top MW in his division who he hasn't fought. Fact)

[Larry the boss]

What exactly makes Kessler and Froch, Abraham and Bika more proven?


Alright, it's time to be serious here NSB..... come on, what makes Froch, Kessler, Abraham and Sakio Bika so special? Lets be honest... none of them are that good. They're all slow as molasses, flat-footed (with the exception of Kessler) and plodders. All they are are tough guys with good chins, none of them are anywhere as skilled as Golovkin/Kovalev. Golovkin and Kovalev do not have to take out the whole P4P top 10 for anybody to be able to see that. Its clear as day. Just look at their individual skillsets and compare them all


Furthermore.... lets say all of those 168lbers WERE indeed overrated. Whats the difference between Ward being so "great" because he simply fought the top in his division, and Geale (a top 5 MW at the time) simply being brushed off as no challenge. That just shows how good Golovkin is.


Geale = Abraham/Bika/Kessler/Froch..... no?


What makes those 168lbers I just mentioned so special? Besides the fact that they all fought each other? Anybody?

I am going to say this honesty...MAN I CAN NOT EVEN GIVE YOU A SERIOUS REPLY BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE TROLLING

[King_]

Yes, Froch, Dawson, Kessler hell Bika has a better resume than both.

What exactly are Froch's, Kesslers and Bikas resume? A shot Jermain Taylor, scrapping by Andre "I never accomplished anything in the sport, just like GGG/Krusher haters accuse them of" Dirrell, and Jean Pascal? Pascal is decent, I'll give you that


What makes Those guys (aside from Dawson. I'm talking 168lbers.) so special? You can clearly watch all of those guys and see they all lack skill, are slow as hell, can't box, and only know how to plod forward with average power and good chins. Seriously ALL those guys are baroom boxers who can take a punch..... absolutely none of them are "elite boxers." Or am I missing something?

[El-blanco]

The problem with this critique is it can be done to anyones résumé. He's skilled, unwatchable, and has beaten everyone in his path.

[King_]

Wards very good, he's just unwatchable.

I didn't say Ward wasn't good. I said he's a great fighter. Read my posts.

Well, Larry closed this thread

Did you even read my post?

I am going to say this honesty...MAN I CAN NOT EVEN GIVE YOU A SERIOUS REPLY BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE TROLLING

Dude. Larry. I'm not trolling. Can you seriously reply to me? Are you going to tell me what Froch/Abraham/Bika are as fighters besides being drunken brawlers with good chins, average power, plodding, flat-footed, etc.... Do you have anything to say to that?


Are you saying they're NOT those things? if so, elaborate, instead of just calling me a troll. (and please don't bring up resumes) I'm talking about skillsets in particular right now

[King_]

The problem with this critique is it can be done to anyones résumé. He's skilled, unwatchable, and has beaten everyone in his path.

He's beaten everyone in his path. I agree. But so has Golovkin..... its not fair to call his ducks anything other then unofficial wins. Quillin, Murray, Sturm, etc.... all clearly ducked him. So lets just say he beat them. Okay, he beat Macklin, Stevens and Geale.... the first two were top 10 at 160 when he fought them. Geale was top 5.


So with all of that said..... what's the difference between rating him P4P and Ward?


Ward hasn't fought anybody as well-rounded as Kovalev or Golovkin. None of the guys can even dream of doing the things they can do in the ring. If you disagree, disprove me. Fact of the matter is all of the guys Ward beat at 168 are no skilled, tough guys brawlers with good chins.

[Bigg Rigg]

Dawson was a crack head like Oscar but both went down in weight on their own. Wards only good win is Froch. Kessler was favored in their match but the way he beat him was bs. He brutally headbutted him and cut him open. And How good was Kessler really??? Was he an elite fighter??? I don't think so. Ward bet who he had to beat but people act like he beat tons of elite fighters. Froch and kessler* that's it.

[King_]

Come on Larry.... or anybody else. Are you guys going to tell me what makes Froch, Kessler, Abraham or Bika special???? (besides them all fighting each other)


Can anybody disprove what I'm saying of them: (aside from Kessler) They're all tough guys with good chins, none of them are good boxers, all of them mindlessly plod forward and they're all slow. None of them has better then above-average power and none of them have the complete skillset that Kovalev and Golovkin possess.


Anybody?