Has Ward fought anyone as skilled/good as Kovalev/Golovkin?

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  • King_
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    Has Ward fought anyone as skilled/good as Kovalev/Golovkin?

    Andre Wards "resume" is so criminally overrated. Has he beaten ANYBODY at 168 who wasn't a slow, plodding, flat-footed, bar room brawling caveman? Besides Kessler. Seriously. Froch, Bika, Abraham, etc, all fight like straight up no-skilled cavemen.

    IF people keep saying Kovalev and Golovkin haven't fought a boxer like Ward..... why don't people ask if Wards fought someone with the complete skillset like Kovalev/Golovkin? All the guys he beat have the attributes I just mentioned above and none of them are as skilled and as well-rounded fighters as Kovalev/Golovkin.


    Kessler is the only guy (not gonna mention Dawson) Ward has beat who didn't fight like a blind caveman. And lets be honest here, Golovkin and Kovalev would decimate, spray and neuter Mikkel Kessler. Am I the only one who thinks Wards resume is criminally overrated? The reason people have him as P4P #2 is because of his magical 168lb resume.... But the truth is all the guys he beat at 168 were very overrated and he only gets the P4P status for cleaning out the division, regardless of the skill level of the opponents. If that's the case.... why don't hypocritical posters on here give Golovkin P4P credit, for example, for defeating top fighters in his division? he basically cleaned his division out by default, the so called "top fighters' at 160 blatantly ducked him.... and the ones he did beat who were top 5 in the divison, he gets no credit for . (Geale: Top 5. Macklin: Top 10)

    Shouldn't Geale/Macklin = Kessler/Abraham? The latter are overrated, the former aren't very good according to Golovkin haters..... yet all were unquestionably top fighters in the divison. So what's the difference?


    I believe Andre Ward is a great fighter. He beats anybody at 175 and under except Sergey Kovalev and Gennady Golovkin. But the hypocrisy in regards to Ward/Golovkin(Kovalev) on here is astounding.

    What gives?



    (mods this is a serious thread, not a troll thread. please don't lock.)
  • Larry the boss
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    Ward has fought WAYYYYYYY more proven fighters...how skilled are GGG and Kovalev??? we do not know man they have faced 0 Elite fighters or even any A-class fighter...so why even ask this question..let them actually prove themselves 1st..they may or may not be the real thing..calm down..Kovalev has his chance in 2 weeks and hopefully GGG gets his next year

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    • gauze
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      yeah ward is wicked overrated. his only good wins are froch and kessler. fought the weakest opposition in the super 6. dude , dawg, ese.....i scored the bika fight a draw. ward is garbage and i hope he never fights again. dirtiest boxer in the sport. quack

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        Originally posted by gauze
        yeah ward is wicked overrated. his only good wins are froch and kessler. fought the weakest opposition in the super 6. dude , dawg, ese.....i scored the bika fight a draw. ward is garbage and i hope he never fights again. dirtiest boxer in the sport. quack
        The man was not even the favorite in the super 6...Kessler was and he dominated the entire tournament..how can you even post that with a straight face?

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        • Build That Wall
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          Dawson said he would come down to 168 on his own free will. No draining excuse. Dawson got whooped. Ward beat Carl Froch with 1 hand with relative ease, Only John Keane had the correct score, and Yes Kessler, Ward beat him too. Edwin Rodriguez has more skill than Kovalev, But Kovalev would definitely beat Edwin Rodriguez. And lets not forget Arthur Abraham.

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              Originally posted by gauze
              yeah ward is wicked overrated. his only good wins are froch and kessler. fought the weakest opposition in the super 6. dude , dawg, ese.....i scored the bika fight a draw. ward is garbage and i hope he never fights again. dirtiest boxer in the sport. quack
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              • King_
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                Originally posted by LarryXXX
                Ward has fought WAYYYYYYY more proven fighters...how skilled are GGG and Kovalev??? we do not know man they have faced 0 Elite fighters or even any A-class fighter...so why even ask this question..let them actually prove themselves 1st..they may or may not be the real thing..calm down..Kovalev has his chance in 2 weeks and hopefully GGG gets his next year
                What exactly makes Kessler and Froch, Abraham and Bika more proven?


                Alright, it's time to be serious here NSB..... come on, what makes Froch, Kessler, Abraham and Sakio Bika so special? Lets be honest... none of them are that good. They're all slow as molasses, flat-footed (with the exception of Kessler) and plodders. All they are are tough guys with good chins, none of them are anywhere as skilled as Golovkin/Kovalev. Golovkin and Kovalev do not have to take out the whole P4P top 10 for anybody to be able to see that. Its clear as day. Just look at their individual skillsets and compare them all


                Furthermore.... lets say all of those 168lbers WERE indeed overrated. Whats the difference between Ward being so "great" because he simply fought the top in his division, and Geale (a top 5 MW at the time) simply being brushed off as no challenge. That just shows how good Golovkin is.


                Geale = Abraham/Bika/Kessler/Froch..... no?


                What makes those 168lbers I just mentioned so special? Besides the fact that they all fought each other? Anybody?

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                  Wards very good, he's just unwatchable.

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                    Well, Larry closed this thread

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