Comments Thread For: Team Luis Ortiz Claims He’s Clean, Offers Comical “Proof”

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  • hogwash
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    #21
    that piece of paper means jackshit, all that matters now is the B-sample

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    • Cinci Champ
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      #22
      i believe the fighter could pass a lie detector but could this guy pass a lie detector is the real question. i really do believe there are times boxers are givin ped when their trainers or whatever tell them its just supplements. Hate to use it as an example but take manny for example. I bet if it turns out he really did do ped i would probably bet my last dollar that he thought he was taking legal supplements.

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      • Foreign Soil
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        #23
        Originally posted by Cinci Champ
        i believe the fighter could pass a lie detector but could this guy pass a lie detector is the real question. i really do believe there are times boxers are givin ped when their trainers or whatever tell them its just supplements. Hate to use it as an example but take manny for example. I bet if it turns out he really did do ped i would probably bet my last dollar that he thought he was taking legal supplements.
        No doubt it's happened before. I believe Wach fired his entire team after he tested positive against Wlad claiming they slipped him PEDs without his knowing. His trainer at the time(Juan De Leon) also tampered with the gloves and tore padding before the Wlad fight and got caught. A bunch of crazy ass people behind the scenes in boxing...

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        • kafkod
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          #24
          Originally posted by Foreign Soil
          No doubt it's happened before. I believe Wach fired his entire team after he tested positive against Wlad claiming they slipped him PEDs without his knowing. His trainer at the time(Juan De Leon) also tampered with the gloves and tore padding before the Wlad fight and got caught. A bunch of crazy ass people behind the scenes in boxing...
          Could be he fired them for messing up the timing and getting him caught.
          Last edited by kafkod; 10-23-2014, 10:46 AM.

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          • BoxngLove
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            #25
            As a former athlete myself, I have to say that diet, nutrition, proper exercise and sleep are a great concern. It is a lifestyle choice that not everyone takes as seriously as, say, Hopkins, but everyone follows something and believes in that lifestyle and themselves.

            There is a .01% chance an athlete would not know what is going in their body during training. That coupled with the fact that 95% of steroids are injected directly into the muscles would be a dead giveaway.

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            • theface07
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              #26
              Somebody drugged King Kong and sadly I can't say I'm surprised.
              At least he didn't win a real title if he was using.
              I agree that the use of PEDs shouldn't be tolerated in any sport but it seems unlikely that will ever happen without regular, standardized testing.
              This is just one of the many problems of professional boxing.

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