ESPN's New P4P Rankings

[Cobra_]

Are you serious right now? Froch has "fought the better guys." Yeah, he fought them and lost to half of them. Gonzalez has arguably one of the best resumes in boxing at the moment and he's only 27 years old

What?

Maybe I can help you out here. Froch has lost 2 times. Once to the #2 P4P best fighter in the world and the other was Kessler who he beat in the rematch.

He's a P4P top 10.

[Da Boxer]

1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2. Wladimir Klitschko
3. Andre Ward
4. Manny Pacquiao
5. Guillermo Rigondeaux
6. Roman Gonzalez
7. Miguel Cotto
8. Juan Manuel Marquez
9. Carl Froch
10. Danny Garcia

Good list, but my personal opinion on the top 5 will look like this:

1. Floyd
2. Rigo
3. Manny
4. Ward
5. Klitschko

6-10 the same as you have.

[Rip Chudd]

How Ward is on anybodies P4P when he's retired is crazy.

[Grimgash]

I don't rank Wlad highly on a p4p list for one reason. It's p4p and seeing as his size is the reason he's managed to be so good (even in a poor division) has a lot to do with it. He's 30% heavier than his starting weight limit for the division. While he's the best HW and a damn good one, the HW division is tricky due to that. It's like saying he'd be roughly 160lbs in the ring vs Rigo if they fought....which isn't feasible.

[$tate of Mind]

that list is horrendous Pacquiao is too high, GGG doesn't belong in the top 10, Rigo is to low, and no Froch what an epic fail Walters is more deserving of top 10 status than GGG

[LacedUp]

Wlad - beats every challenge in his division, champ for 10 years straight no 9.

GGG beats a few 'never was' - no 7.

Makes sense.

[El Angel]

Damn they have GGG high.

[mathed]

What a crap list. Here's the real P4P list:


1)Wlad Klitschko
2)Floyd Mayweather
3)Gennady Golovkin
4)Roman Gonzalez
5)Guillermo Rigondeaux
6)Sergey Kovalev
7)Manny Pacquiao
8)Timothy Bradley
9)Vasyl Lomachenko
10)Juan Manuel Marquez


First of all Andre Ward is retired. Any list with Ward in it is automatically invalid until he returns to the ring. Also any list without Wlad as #1 is invalid because he- and any other HW champion in boxing history is the reason there's even a fantasy "P4P" list in the first place.

Terrance Crawford is on the outside looking in and next in line, IMO.

Golovkin and Kovalev above Pac, Bradley and JMM? Loma in the top 10 too?

I've also drank a few prior to entering this thread, so it's all good

[Larry the boss]

for sure those espn people didn't think pac lost to bradley in their first fight and rightfully so...that's 2 wins over bradley. if you think bradley should be ranked over marquez then the guy who beat bradley twice should be ranked above both of them.

Well if that is the case then why is Manny ranked over Marquez?

[Da Hammer]

Well if that is the case then why is Manny ranked over Marquez?

Probably because he has 2 wins over him and really should have 3 from the first fight technicality