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  • LacedUp
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    #61
    Originally posted by hugh grant
    I didn't know it was a requirement for WW to respond to lightweights ie JMM calling them out. So Floyd responds to lightweights but not middleweights.

    Floyd has his whole career been accused of ducking challenges, and its true as true can be.
    lol stop reaching. JMM is by far a more established name than GGG and had fought at world level for years. GGG is still lacking his first big win.

    Originally posted by HeroBando
    Sure, they like their sanctioning fees, and Floyd obliges. Ggg offered to drop to Sww, not asking Floyd to go up in weight. Seems like advantage TBE, he'd fight at his weight, and everyone knows dropping an extra weight class is difficult
    So? people gave Floyd hell for making Canelo drop 2 pounds, even though Caneloīs camp offered it. Imagine if he would make GGG drop 6 pounds! All hell would be break loose.

    Anyway, we all know Floyd isnīt a LMW and also only fights there for a big PPV fight. Since GGG is not a big enough name to make him travel to 154, then the whole point is really redundant. GGG should focus on fighting the best in his own weightclass and above, as opposed to calling out WWs.

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      #62
      Originally posted by LacedUp
      lol stop reaching. JMM is by far a more established name than GGG and had fought at world level for years. GGG is still lacking his first big win.



      So? people gave Floyd hell for making Canelo drop 2 pounds, even though Caneloīs camp offered it. Imagine if he would make GGG drop 6 pounds! All hell would be break loose.
      Anyway, we all know Floyd isnīt a LMW and also only fights there for a big PPV fight. Since GGG is not a big enough name to make him travel to 154, then the whole point is really redundant. .
      Deary me. All the excuses for Floyd are in overdrive. GGG is the talk of the town now, JMM was only anyone back then because of Pac. GGG is bigger than Floyd so it would be a challenge. So what if JMM was a name, he done nothing at WW or LWW even. Hes famous for losing to Pac and dropping like a sack of spuds when hit by Pac.
      Floyds excuse for fighting JMM was JMM called Floyd out. Well GGG has called Floyd out, just like Sergio did. Its clear Floyd only picks on little guys with styles that are favourable.
      Yes, Floyd would get more credit for fighting GGG at GGGs strongest weight middleweight, so Floyd should consider bypass the CWs he likes and challenge himself.
      There you go again with GGG isn't a big enough name. He is the biggest name in boxing now. Just cos he hasn't had a signature win. And GGG fighting Floyd, GGG sees it as a challenge to fight the best in the world at 154.
      Last edited by hugh grant; 10-20-2014, 07:34 PM.

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        #63
        Originally posted by hugh grant
        Deary me. All the excuses for Floyd are in overdrive. GGG is the talk of the town now, JMM was only anyone back then because of Pac. GGG is bigger than Floyd so it would be a challenge. So what if JMM was a name, he done nothing at WW or LWW even. Hes famous for losing to Pac and dropping like a sack of spuds when hit by Pac.
        Yes, Floyd would get more credit for fighting GGG at GGGs strongest weight middleweight, so Floyd should consider bypass the CWs he likes and challenge himself.
        There you go again with GGG isn't a big enough name. He is the biggest name in boxing now. Just cos he hasn't had a signature win. And GGG fighting Floyd, GGG sees it as a challenge to fight the best in the world at 154.
        I couldnīt give a *** about Floyd Mayweather Iīm not a fan of his. That doesnt mean Iīm completely void of logic. You are talking about a guy whoīs the talk of the town today, but has never been on PPV and/or ever fought a known fighter. Yet you want Floyd to fight him, even though heīs a middleweight.

        Obviously, you just want to throw Floyd to slaugther, which is fine - but itīs still illogical to say Floyd is ducking a guy that fights two weights above him. Obviously the bold is completely rubbish.

        With regards to JMM, by the time he fought Floyd heīd been in the ring with MAB, Pacquiao (twice), Casamayor, Derrick Gainer, Salido, Medina, Juan Diaz etc. His status was in another stratosphere amongst casuals. The guy on the street has no idea who GGG is.

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          #64
          Originally posted by LacedUp
          You want to throw Floyd to the slaugther, which is fine - but itīs still illogical to say Floyd is ducking a guy that fights two weights above him.

          With regards to JMM, by the time he fought Floyd heīd been in the ring with MAB, Pacquiao (twice), Casamayor, Derrick Gainer, Salido, Medina, Juan Diaz etc. His status was in another stratosphere amongst casuals. The guy on the street has no idea who GGG is.
          Floyd needs to challenge himself. You may think Floyd cant beat GGG. But Floyd needs to have more faith in himself. Miguel was underdog against Sergio but beat him. Miguel wasn't obligated to fight Sergio, afterall, Miguel lost to Pac and Floyd, so whod think he could beat Sergio?

          GGG and Floyd would be big money. Don't worry about the guy on the street. Think about boxing fans who pay to watch Floyds ass beat.

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            #65
            Originally posted by hugh grant
            Floyd needs to challenge himself. You may think Floyd cant beat GGG. But Floyd needs to have more faith in himself. Miguel was underdog against Sergio but beat him. Miguel wasn't obligated to fight Sergio, afterall, Miguel lost to Pac and Floyd, so whod think he could beat Sergio?

            GGG and Floyd would be big money. Don't worry about the guy on the street. Think about boxing fans who pay to watch Floyds ass beat.
            Well I said I thought Cotto would beat Sergio. Why arenīt you concerned about Cotto fighting GGG? Since that fight actually makes sense.

            Floyd is always the smaller guy, that wouldnīt be anything new. In fact, JMM was probably the last time Floyd was the bigger guy and people are still giving him shlt about it!

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              #66
              Originally posted by LacedUp
              Well I said I thought Cotto would beat Sergio. Why arenīt you concerned about Cotto fighting GGG? Since that fight actually makes sense.

              Floyd is always the smaller guy, that wouldnīt be anything new. In fact, JMM was probably the last time Floyd was the bigger guy and people are still giving him shlt about it!
              Well, Floyd is supposed to be the best boxer in the world so it stands to reason people want to see what the best boxer in the world can do. Can GGGs straightforward style trouble the skills of Floyd, some would say hes made to measure for Floyd.

              Maidana wasn't the smaller guy than Floyd. He was bloated. Was RJJ obligated to fight Ruiz? Was RJJ underdog against Ruiz? Floyd just needs to challenge himself. Its not a case of GGG not having fought anyone. I don't think anyone cares about that. He is the most avoided boxer in the world for the reason people fear being ko'ed by him. To say your not going to fight him cos he hasn't got a great name on his record or that it wont sell is the worst excuse in the world.

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                #67
                Originally posted by LacedUp
                lol stop reaching. JMM is by far a more established name than GGG and had fought at world level for years. GGG is still lacking his first big win.



                So? people gave Floyd hell for making Canelo drop 2 pounds, even though Caneloīs camp offered it. Imagine if he would make GGG drop 6 pounds! All hell would be break loose.

                Anyway, we all know Floyd isnīt a LMW and also only fights there for a big PPV fight. Since GGG is not a big enough name to make him travel to 154, then the whole point is really redundant. GGG should focus on fighting the best in his own weightclass and above, as opposed to calling out WWs.
                Youre wrong, Canelo didnt offer 152. He was very much against it. He offered 150 in 2011 and has since grown.

                And once again, Floyd is the reigning, lineal, unified, 2x champ at Sww. Has held a Sww belt for 2.5 years. Its shocking that some would excuse him from fighting dangerous comp at 154 cause hes just a welter.

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                  #68
                  wishful thinking, that fight is never gonna happen

                  Golovkin to big and too dangerous

                  if he picked him to fight before he retires that he ducked Margarito and Pacquaio stuff definitely should stop, GGG is more dangerous than both of them. Size, skill and power....everyone has their limitations

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by HeroBando
                    Youre wrong, Canelo didnt offer 152. He was very much against it. He offered 150 in 2011 and has since grown.

                    And once again, Floyd is the reigning, lineal, unified, 2x champ at Sww. Has held a Sww belt for 2.5 years. Its shocking that some would excuse him from fighting dangerous comp at 154 cause hes just a welter.
                    In a 47 fight career, he's fought 3 times at 154. All 3 times against guys with huge following 2/3 times breaking all time numbers.

                    Clearly, he's not a LMW but only fights there for mega fights. GGG is only a mega fighter to hardcore fans. He's not fought at 154 for more than a year, but you want him in with a middleweight.

                    What's shocking is that you'd make up a far fetched logic just to see him get slaughtered against a much bigger guy who was 173 lbs on fight night. That's 4 weight classes above floyd!

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by LacedUp
                      In a 47 fight career, he's fought 3 times at 154. All 3 times against guys with huge following 2/3 times breaking all time numbers.

                      Clearly, he's not a LMW but only fights there for mega fights. GGG is only a mega fighter to hardcore fans. He's not fought at 154 for more than a year, but you want him in with a middleweight.

                      What's shocking is that you'd make up a far fetched logic just to see him get slaughtered against a much bigger guy who was 173 lbs on fight night. That's 4 weight classes above floyd!
                      I doubt GGG can comfortably make 154

                      that's some real reaching...he will be outweighed even in a catchweight fight by 20 pounds on fight night....its like Andre Ward fighting cruiserweights or heavyweights and hasn't fought at lt. heavy let alone those weights

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