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  • HeroBando
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    #171
    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
    Sergio was consensus top 5 P4P because he had impressive wins over world class fighters. Golovkin does not. His resume is **** average.
    Even worse. Whats a top 5 p4per doing fighting clubfighters one after another, looking not so hot, and retaining his ranking?

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    • Blueduck
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      #172
      The huge disadvantage GGG has to Mike Tyson is that if you were a heavyweight and wanted to be champion, you had to come beat Tyson.

      Being a middle weight and not having all three major belts, people in his own division can duck him and still be "champ", or gain or lose a little bit of weight and get out of his division. Shame but it is what it is.

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        #173
        Originally posted by dan_cov
        No I never.
        I just used him as an example of a fighter often labelled as exciting that I personally find boring. Same with Provodnikov
        If you put them together it would probably be exciting but their styles in general are not really for me.
        id rather watch provodnikov and GGG any day than rigondeaux.

        its boxers like rigondeaux, ward, and floyd that have ruined boxing and turned it into a niche sport.

        nobody wants to watch pretentious patty cake techniques that runs or clinches excesssively at the first sign of action.

        GTFO.

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          #174
          Originally posted by artfuL_
          Sergio was P4P due to his wins over Pavlik and Williams, his resume (aside from Chavez) after that is "**** average" along with GGG.

          Gennady will eventually get his Pavlik/Williams moment.
          Aside from your **** and balls, you'd be a female. What the *** does that even mean?

          I deal in facts not "eventuallys"

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            #175
            Originally posted by T18Z
            I love it how you make out like ring top 10 are club fighters, it's pretty funny. Geale and Macklin aren't 'club' fighters, specifically look what Macklin did to Martinez in his prime days.

            It's not just who he fights, it's how dominant his performances are. He hasn't struggled legitimately with anyone, never looked shook or hurt, not been knocked down, hell he hasn't lost any rounds since his fight with Ouma pretty much, and this is the fight where we know he wasn't optimal. He also holds I believe the 2nd highest hit/not get hit stats behind Mayweather.

            It's fine if you don't care for his style and aren't entertained by it, but don't downplay the opponents which obviously aren't the tomato cans of the resume, it just makes you look extremely bias.
            Ring top 10? Macklin was well past his best which wasn't that good in the first place. Geale is just a very very ordinary fighter. The Middleweight division is god awful so you don't need to be very good to crack the top 10. Ring Top 10 means absolutely nothing.

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            • artfuL_
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              #176
              Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
              Aside from your **** and balls, you'd be a female. What the *** does that even mean?

              I deal in facts not "eventuallys"
              Facts like they share common opponents/body of work. Might need Google for that too right?

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                #177
                Originally posted by artfuL_
                Facts like they share common opponents/body of work. Might need Google for that too right?
                Who? Martinez and GGG? They share common opponents and bodies of work....oh yeah aside from the fact that Sergio beat actual world class opponents. What kind of argument is this?

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                  #178
                  Originally posted by Sterling Archer
                  id rather watch provodnikov and GGG any day than rigondeaux.

                  its boxers like rigondeaux, ward, and floyd that have ruined boxing and turned it into a niche sport.

                  nobody wants to watch pretentious patty cake techniques that runs or clinches excesssively at the first sign of action.

                  GTFO.
                  Lol. He mad.

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                  • artfuL_
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                    #179
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                    Who? Martinez and GGG? They share common opponents and bodies of work....oh yeah aside from the fact that Sergio beat actual world class opponents. What kind of argument is this?
                    Read the initial post and stop digressing. Martinez was able to cement the big fights, fights post Williams were average - Macklin, Barker etc. That is the level of competition GGG has been facing. His big fights will now come.

                    Should I spell it out to you?

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                      #180
                      Originally posted by artfuL_
                      Read the initial post and stop digressing. Martinez was able to cement the big fights, fights post Williams were average - Macklin, Barker etc. That is the level of competition GGG has been facing. His big fights will now come.

                      Should I spell it out to you?
                      Cool so GGG is Martinez minus good wins?

                      A great point well made.

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