Comments Thread For: “Fighting Words” - Golovkin: Waiting Game or Weight Game

[twosweethooks]

GGG doesn't need to move up. He has replaced Manny Pacquiao as having by far the ******est, most delusional fanbase in the sport. And these clown ass muf.uckaz are perfectly satisfied paying for, and watching him beat up bums. Get that money Gennady. And get it as easy as possible. Especially if these dumb fux are willing to just hand it to you.

hahahaha you made it mang ! You have the honors of being NSB's Class Clown hahahahahaha

[The Big Dunn]

GGG doesn't need to move up. He has replaced Manny Pacquiao as having by far the ******est, most delusional fanbase in the sport. And these clown ass muf.uckaz are perfectly satisfied paying for, and watching him beat up bums. Get that money Gennady. And get it as easy as possible. Especially if these dumb fux are willing to just hand it to you.

much like pac fans on NSB they get offended if you don't love GGG like they do. It's like you violated a rule or something.

[deanrw]

It's ridiculous for him to be criticised for it.

There's a desperate desire amongst his critics to smear him as someone who's beating up smaller guys that's sadly undermined by the simple fact that he isn't. He's a moderately sized middleweight who makes weight very easily.

However, I do think that it may be in his best interest to move up next year if the Canelo fight isn't happening. There are pros and cons in that move.

The pros are that Chavez Jr, Froch, and maybe even Ward will still be available in a 12-18 month time frame, and that Golovkin could probably make a fight with at least two of those guys that would be big business.

The cons are that Golovkin is an offensively oriented fighter, which makes the jump in weight class a lot riskier than if he were he a more conservative boxer. Also, if Froch retires, and Ward either stays inactive or moves up to 175, there actually isn't a lot for GGG to chase at 168 either. He would be pursuing Chavez Jr, and it doesn't make much sense for him to do that when he could just pursue Canelo at 160 instead.

I think he will fight at 160 two more times, and depending on how other match-ups go, Canelo will probably make the most important decision of Golovkin's career next summer.

Moving up to 168 is no fix either. He has nearly 0 options at 168. One is Chavez Jr, which has been already offered and did not happen. Froch also, and froch has no interest. The only fighter at 168 who has said he would fight GGG is Ward. There are two problems with that. 1 is we do not even know if Ward can legally fight, and even is that obstacle was overcome, we do not know if that fight can FINANCIALLY be made. Both guys will want giant paydays and it is definitely no PPV fight.

He would basically have to jump right up to 175, and he is not any 175 pound fighter

[Dean_Razorback]

GGG is martinez size, i don't remember anyone asking for sergio to move up to face ward.

[SUBZER0ED]

There's an old saying in boxing that a good big man beats a good little man every time. Those who fault GGG for not fighting Ward should squawk more about why matches boil down to promoters' & managers' egos, attitudes and greed. It's ridiculous that champions within a division can't face each other to unify, but instead are pressured to fight naturally taller, bigger men to prove their mettle. The only reason Ward wants Golovkin is because he needs a boost after screwing up his own career with inactivity.

[hitking]

GGG is martinez size, i don't remember anyone asking for sergio to move up to face ward.

You clearly haven't been following boxing long. Ward-Martinez was discussed. I remember it was either negotiated or presented to the fights at a 164 or 166 catchweight. I think the same proposal was presented to Serg to fight Bute. I believe Martinez was approached about a Hopkins fight at 170. He declined all because he was basically a jr middleweight, who was presented opportunities at middleweight and took them. That's not the case with GGG. Also, Martinez had proven himself, GGG hasn't.

[bluzi]

You clearly haven't been following boxing long. Ward-Martinez was discussed. I remember it was either negotiated or presented to the fights at a 164 or 166 catchweight. I think the same proposal was presented to Serg to fight Bute. I believe Martinez was approached about a Hopkins fight at 170. He declined all because he was basically a jr middleweight, who was presented opportunities at middleweight and took them. That's not the case with GGG. Also, Martinez had proven himself, GGG hasn't.

hitking , why Ward aint coming down for GGG ? why he isnt going up to 175 ?
does he have something to prove @ 168 ? didnt he clean the division ?
you are such a hater its unreal , GGG will do what Ward does not and thats change weight class , just let him win is weight class first as every website has him as #2 MW after Cotto , can he at least get that honor from you ? be the top MW recogonized by all ? and not just forum members ?

[TudorMiron]

You clearly haven't been following boxing long. Ward-Martinez was discussed. I remember it was either negotiated or presented to the fights at a 164 or 166 catchweight. I think the same proposal was presented to Serg to fight Bute. I believe Martinez was approached about a Hopkins fight at 170. He declined all because he was basically a jr middleweight, who was presented opportunities at middleweight and took them. That's not the case with GGG. Also, Martinez had proven himself, GGG hasn't.

Do you mind if I ask for links where one can read about such offers/negotiations?

[TudorMiron]

Why is GGG willing to fight Froch, Kessler and Chavez but not Ward? None of these are PPV fights, so it appears to be a duck. Cotto started out as a light welter so he'll be a fool to fight a heavy hitting, natural middlewieght like GGG. Alvarez is a logical choice, but a puncher should be looking to move up to fight bigger fighters, not down to fight smaller ones.

...are you serious? Chaves jr is definately a PPV fight and was planned as such. Froch is definately a huge money fight.

[hitking]

hitking , why Ward aint coming down for GGG ? why he isnt going up to 175 ?
does he have something to prove @ 168 ? didnt he clean the division ?
you are such a hater its unreal , GGG will do what Ward does not and thats change weight class , just let him win is weight class first as every website has him as #2 MW after Cotto , can he at least get that honor from you ? be the top MW recogonized by all ? and not just forum members ?

First of all, GGG isn't the #2 middleweight. He's the #1 middleweight. Cotto isn't a middleweight, I don't care what belt he has. Just like Canelo is currently the #1 jr middleweight, even though Floyd is technically the championship. Floyd isn't a jr middleweight.

As for me being a hater. Feel free to call me whatever you want. I just want GGG to validate all the hype and do what he said. He said anybody from 54-68. Fight Ward.