Heavyweights not getting Credit - why ?

[Ryn0]

yea,,,this era is very poor but you have to take into account wlads longevity and total domination in his fights. even in a poor era its easy to have a bad night or two but wlad hasn't even come close to losing in years. I don't have him in the top 8,,,but I think he deserves at least a borderline top 10 ranking with his dominance and longevity

Just outside the top 10 as it stands.

As I said, Wlad is an ATG but he suffers from a poor era and those early losses.

[asgarth]

the problem in todays heavyweight era is,
that most contenders do not risk to fight against
other contenders, because the risk of losing the payday
against klitschko is too big.

Weve got pulev, povetkin, fury, wilder, jennings, etc.
as top10 contenders, but not one of them has fought against
another contender.
Yes, for example Pulev beat thompson and ustinov, even though these
guys are better than your average journeyman, they would never be a
contender.

So in conclusion, no one really earns his challenger status and
no one is really prepared for klitschko.

[beez721]

Just outside the top 10 as it stands.

As I said, Wlad is an ATG but he suffers from a poor era and those early losses.

yea,,,,were pretty close then. I have him just touching the top 10 but I can definitely see an argument for him being just outside of that with his losses and the poor era

[Elroy1]

Because MOST boxing fans are incredibly ****** and/or naïve that's why, in a nutshell.

[beez721]

Because MOST boxing fans are incredibly ****** and/or naïve that's why, in a nutshell.

be easy on yourself

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Because MOST boxing fans are incredibly ****** and/or naïve that's why, in a nutshell.

I've never seen a boxing fan ****** enough to call Joe Louis a fat, overweight bum. Oh wait, yes i have!! ^^

[Elroy1]

I've never seen a boxing fan ****** enough to call Joe Louis a fat, overweight bum. Oh wait, yes i have!! ^^

I never called Louis a fat overweight bum you moron.

Louis has a great record, hence not a bum.

Louis was tiny and lean, hence, not overweight or fat.

His opponents were mostly absolute, actual bums, simple as that,

And perhaps I pointed out to you once that Louis looks nothing like the shredded CW's of today. But I never went so far as to call him FAT!

Sick of the lies!

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I never called Louis a fat overweight bum you moron.

Louis has a great record, hence not a bum.

Louis was tiny and lean, hence, not overweight or fat.

His opponents were mostly absolute, actual bums, simple as that,

And perhaps I pointed out to you once that Louis looks nothing like the shredded CW's of today. But I never went so far as to call him FAT!

Sick of the lies!

You claimed he was a fat bum, and would get knocked the fook out by an average bar room brawler. I'd dig up the original post but i'm far too lazy.

I suspect you were just trolling though!

[Juof]

Wlads in a league of his own. It will be truely exciting when he retires and we get to see who will take the throne. Wlads simply too much of a gentleman to lash out at pre fight press conferences, doesn't really talk much so fans can't really connect with him. Plus he hasn't met his match so same old result fight after fight it gets repetitive

[Elroy1]

You claimed he was a fat bum, and would get knocked the fook out by an average bar room brawler. I'd dig up the original post but i'm far too lazy.

I suspect you were just trolling though!

Yeah dunno about your other statements I think your exaggerating as usual.

But I did say he'd probably be knocked out by SOME (not the average) bar-room brawlers.

There're some roided and rough dudes out there these days who would make Louis look like a little school boy.

And let's face it, Louis was a sucker for a right hand!

Now the 15 yr old kid in your display vid...

Now THAT'S a fighter worthy of esteem who I doubt ANY bar-room brawler would want to mess with!

That's a REAL HW!