Is Everyone Overrated???

[Johnny Rubber]

Its NSB so often its a reaction to that specific poster or someone trolling to start a war.

There should be an option to take a discussion to a "sparring thread" so we don't have 60 posts from only two posters, all of which have nothing to do with the initial topic, but just a keyboard battle or whatever.

[The Big Dunn]

I like GGG and if he signed with Haymon and got big fights, then who cares....but I know what you're saying man, there would be a lot of flip flopping going on if that were to happen.

If I remember correctly, Paul Williams was with Haymon and he got matched up fine IMO

The best example has been Canelo. Since he signed with HBO-a number of his critics here on NSB have changed how they post about him-and he hasn't even fought on HBO yet.

Its all in what a posters favorite fighter gets out of it. The Tim Bradley syndrome-when he beat Manny and Provo-he was a robber that ****** and who lost both and wasn't a p4p fighter. when the rematch with Manny was signed-those same guys touted his #3 p4p ranking.

Just how some on NSB operate.

[The Big Dunn]

There should be an option to take a discussion to a "sparring thread" so we don't have 60 posts from only two posters, all of which have nothing to do with the initial topic, but just a keyboard battle or whatever.

the thunderdome is there for that and resolving other disputes. I am a poster that has derailed threads with inane and repetitive back and forths on occasions. Lately ive tried to avoid this.

[El_Feroz82]

Yes, everyone is overrated because fans talk like fighters can't lose when the reality is they all can lose (and do lose, when they consistently fight the best).

This is the answer, but it seems like very few think that way here.

[Ryn0]

There is a clear formula...

The further back in time you go.. The more overrated the boxer.

And the closer you get to present... The more underrated the fighter.

With a few exceptions in the 60's and 70's where some of the boxers became so overrated they transcended the general rule.

That's pretty much boxing in a nut shell!

Depends on the fan, you can only ever judge a fighter on who they fought and beat and what they achieved in the sport during their career. Little point making fantasy fights between eras.

Losses do carry more weight today though because the best seldom fight the best often. A lot more losses in the early period of boxing history because there was one champion and his mandatory was often the next best fighter in that weight class.

[Black Barty]

Haymon's use of his leverage in power is one thing. Making general statements about undefeated records is another.

Deontay wilder and GGG come to mind-the undefeated record is developed solely on beating lesser fighters. Neither has beaten a fighter who is "on their level". That doesn't mean GGG isn't highly skilled and wilder doesn't have power.

Posters are going to like what they like-nothing wrong with that.

Not a valid comparison. GGG's "lesser opponents" are eons better than Wilder's.

The only opponent of any substance Wilder has beaten is Scott, and even Scott was coming off a stoppage loss to Chisora.

GGG beat Geale, Macklin, Rosado, Proksa - not exactly the murderers' row, but compared to Wilder's opposition, they are downright great.

Don't even try to argue that the only reason GGG is popular and Wilder is not is because Wilder is with Haymon. We both know it's not true.

[El_Feroz82]

Not a valid comparison. GGG's "lesser opponents" are eons better than Wilder's.

The only opponent of any substance Wilder has beaten is Scott, and even Scott was coming off a stoppage loss to Chisora.

GGG beat Geale, Macklin, Rosado, Proksa - not exactly the murderers' row, but compared to Wilder's opposition, they are downright great.

Don't even try to argue that the only reason GGG is popular and Wilder is not is because Wilder is with Haymon. We both know it's not true.

Totally agree....as I did say the same thing right below his original post

[Black Barty]

Totally agree....as I did say the same thing right below his original post

Evala, bratle.