is Calzaghe HOF or potential future HOF

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Joe can't get in now, but he will because the golden goose has been layed and well its all about fighting the big name americans, and he'll beat them, Jones is definetely for the taking and Tarver is very beatable for Joe, with those two names on his resume alone he'll be HOF. I sort of want Joe to become undisputed super middleweight champion, but in my opinion Kessler is the most dangerous opponent out there for Joe with the least amount of financial reward and Joe is winding down so why bother, but it would look good, but in fairness Joe could have done it years ago, never mind.

Jones...Tarver..retirement=HOF

[RAESAAD]

I think he is.......I mean he has held a title for long time albeit in a relatively weak division and is undefeated in 40+ fights to me that is HOF material.

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If he retires an undefeated two weight world champion, he'll go down as one of the greatest ever British fighters ever if not the greatest. Unless of course Ricky can do the same thing lol, because he is just more popular.

[TheEvilSaint]

his fight with lacy was no doubt the biggest fight of his career. but he needs more than one superfight and a lengthy title reign to get in to the HOF.

but then of course, there are people in the HOF that dont belong there in the first place...

[DaWayne]

Hey if Terry Norris or Ken Norton can why can't he.

[Orange Sneakers]

It was Byrd's last ever amateur fight, Byrd had 300+ fights before that without ever being stopped. It came at an international meet where Calzaghe was representing Italy or Sardinia.

That sounds about right,Calzaghe was kicked off the Barcelona Olympic team due to not being willing to train with Team GBs Olympic trainers,he wanted to go to the Olympics with his dad Enzo training him but got kicked off the team. So it makes sense that Joe would of then washed his hands with representing Wales or GB,and I do know that in Sardinia they are all very proud of Joe. Hes been there to train a few times in recent years.

[phil28]

When you look at Calzaghe's sub par resume over the last 8 years or so, you notice that he was at Supper Middleweight the entire time, yet managed to miss encounters Sven Ottke, Eric Lucas, Markus Beyer, Anthony Mundine, Antwun Echols, Mikkel Kessler, & Danny Green.

Up until a few years ago, the WBO belt held as much credibility as the NABF or the IBO title.

He never unified a major title up until now, at 33 years old.

You can try and sugar coat it all you want. Calzaghe is NOT a Hall of Fame fighter right now, and this win over Lacy does not get him a free pass.

He has the potential, and always has, but it's not potential that gets you into the hall of fame. It's accomplishment.

He still has a shot, but he'd need to pick it up as of now and win some credible fights, and or unify some titles.

Of the list you mentioned, I can't believe you've got Ottke, Mundine, Beyer and Green on there.

Joe called out Ottke on numerous occasions, but the guy only ever fought in Germany. Calzaghe even said he'd fight the guy in Germany, but Ottke wanted no part of the fight.

Mundine? You're kidding right? The guy's a rugby league player. He's never beaten a decent fighter in his career, he held the WBA belt for 2 fights (after Ottke retired) and is one of only 6 guys to ever be knocked out by Ottke. Yeah, great fighter.

Markus Beyer. Jesus, this guy is even worse than Ottke. Struggled against Danny Green in two fights and has looked anything but convincing in a single bout. As soon as this guy leaves Germany, he loses his belt.

Danny Green. The only notable scalp on this guy's resume is Lucas. To put that in perspective, Lucas has lost EVERYTIME he has stepped up in class, with losses to Green, Kessler and even Beyer.

Antwun Echols' only real achievement at Super middle is coming back from being down 3 times in the 2nd round to stop Brewer in the 3rd. Oh, and he lost to Mundine.

Ottke is the only guy you mentioned who Calzaghe had something to gain by beating, and I already said why that fight didn't happen. I think you need to be a bit more objective rather than plucking a list of names out of a hat.

[Bozo_no no]

Of the list you mentioned, I can't believe you've got Ottke, Mundine, Beyer and Green on there.

Joe called out Ottke on numerous occasions, but the guy only ever fought in Germany. Calzaghe even said he'd fight the guy in Germany, but Ottke wanted no part of the fight.

Mundine? You're kidding right? The guy's a rugby league player. He's never beaten a decent fighter in his career, he held the WBA belt for 2 fights (after Ottke retired) and is one of only 6 guys to ever be knocked out by Ottke. Yeah, great fighter.

Markus Beyer. Jesus, this guy is even worse than Ottke. Struggled against Danny Green in two fights and has looked anything but convincing in a single bout. As soon as this guy leaves Germany, he loses his belt.

Danny Green. The only notable scalp on this guy's resume is Lucas. To put that in perspective, Lucas has lost EVERYTIME he has stepped up in class, with losses to Green, Kessler and even Beyer.

Antwun Echols' only real achievement at Super middle is coming back from being down 3 times in the 2nd round to stop Brewer in the 3rd. Oh, and he lost to Mundine.

Ottke is the only guy you mentioned who Calzaghe had something to gain by beating, and I already said why that fight didn't happen. I think you need to be a bit more objective rather than plucking a list of names out of a hat.

YAWN.

Again, there's an excuse for everyone he didn't fight, and that leaves him with a list full of weaker names.

He has a weak overall resume, didn't unify a major title at 168 (before last weekend), didn't come close to cleaning it out, and didn't change divsions in search of bigger fights.

Now, at 33, he has his best career win against a guy with 21 fights.

NOT a HoF career at this point any way you look at it.

[JuicyJuice]

Antwun Echols' only real achievement at Super middle is coming back from being down 3 times in the 2nd round to stop Brewer in the 3rd.

No that was bull****. 99 out of 100 referee's would of stopped that fight in the second round in favor of Brewer, 99 out of 100 referee's wouldn't of called the stoppage for Echols in round three.

[JuicyJuice]

YAWN.

Again, there's an excuse for everyone he didn't fight, and that leaves him with a list full of weaker names.

He has a weak overall resume, didn't unify a major title at 168 (before last weekend), didn't come close to cleaning it out, and didn't change divsions in search of bigger fights.

Now, at 33, he has his best career win against a guy with 21 fights.

NOT a HoF career at this point any way you look at it.

Well, dude, you obviously hate the guy with a passion for whatever reason. That is plain to see.