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  • El_Feroz82
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    #11
    Originally posted by bojangles1987
    Accurate scoring is not subjective or opinionated. Whoever is landing the most clean punches wins the round. No ifs, ands, buts, or opinion of any kind involved.

    The only opinion comes when two fighters land roughly the same amount of punches.
    Don't agree at all man, most damage done is not always about volume

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    • HeGotPacProblem
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      #12
      Originally posted by El_Feroz82
      Don't agree at all man, most damage done is not always about volume
      Most damaging punches landed.

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      • Jc8804
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        #13
        Originally posted by Jc8804
        Yeah judges are bias.

        I score fights like this

        1.ring general. Who dictates the pace and space of the fight .who gains the the timing and comfort.

        2.smart agression. Meaning when you decide throw punches you become aggressive , are you landing your jab an essential weapon in boxing and are you landing power shots and are you landing body shots moving forward sideways or backward.I count head shots as 75% of the score chart for points 25% for body shots.how hard you hit doesnt matter.ring generalship will take effect if a boxer doesnt have power at somepoint. (Paulie)

        3. Defense. Do you make your opponent miss with movement or head movement or do you deflect (catch or roll ) punches in which they do not land? Do you neutralize your opponents offense or smart aggression .

        4. Do you hurt or damage your opponent ? Who would i have rather have been in recovery during the break physically .


        Scoring fights based off activity
        Or volume or can come into play, but not very often,Yet its used in scoring way to often. While the others are sometimes neglected.

        Thoughts please


        Volume is overated. Agression comes when you punch only. Footwork of any sort is ring generalship .
        Clinching or dirty boxing in clinches is
        Tactics. Which like volume is scored by judges as a criteria.

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        • Deevel916
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          #14
          Lets take round 3 in the Floyd/Maidana rematch.

          Floyd landed more scoring punches but Maidana landed a bomb to close the round and hurt Floyd. Who do u give the round to?

          Do you give it to the guy who landed more or to the guy who inflicted more damage?

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          • Jc8804
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            #15
            Originally posted by Jc8804
            Yeah judges are bias.

            I score fights like this

            1.ring general. Who dictates the pace and space of the fight .who gains the the timing and comfort.

            2.smart agression. Meaning when you decide throw punches you become aggressive , are you landing your jab an essential weapon in boxing and are you landing power shots and are you landing body shots moving forward sideways or backward.I count head shots as 75% of the score chart for points 25% for body shots.how hard you hit doesnt matter.ring generalship will take effect if a boxer doesnt have power at somepoint. (Paulie)

            3. Defense. Do you make your opponent miss with movement or head movement or do you deflect (catch or roll ) punches in which they do not land? Do you neutralize your opponents offense or smart aggression .

            4. Do you hurt or damage your opponent ? Who would i have rather have been in recovery during the break physically .


            Scoring fights based off activity
            Or volume or can come into play, but not very often,Yet its used in scoring way to often. While the others are sometimes neglected.

            Thoughts please

            To me
            Ring generalship , smart aggression and defense won out for 2 min 55 sec

            At the end it was a nice hurt him and rather be maidana on the break.


            But thats 3 vs 1 in my top 4 ways.
            Floyd wins the round.

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            • bojangles1987
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              #16
              Originally posted by El_Feroz82
              Don't agree at all man, most damage done is not always about volume
              I didn't mention volume. And damage done is often an opinion.

              Who landed the most clean punches is often not. That's what determines who wins a round. Not volume, not damage, not ring generalship, not defense, only who is landing the punches. All that other stuff only comes into play if the landed punches are close.

              That's how fights are supposed to be scored.

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              • Citizen Koba
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                #17
                Originally posted by Jc8804
                Yeah judges are bias.

                I score fights like this

                1.ring general. Who dictates the pace and space of the fight .who gains the the timing and comfort.

                2.smart agression. Meaning when you decide throw punches you become aggressive , are you landing your jab an essential weapon in boxing and are you landing power shots and are you landing body shots moving forward sideways or backward.I count head shots as 75% of the score chart for points 25% for body shots.how hard you hit doesnt matter.ring generalship will take effect if a boxer doesnt have power at somepoint. (Paulie)

                3. Defense. Do you make your opponent miss with movement or head movement or do you deflect (catch or roll ) punches in which they do not land? Do you neutralize your opponents offense or smart aggression .

                4. Do you hurt or damage your opponent ? Who would i have rather have been in recovery during the break physically .


                Scoring fights based off activity
                Or volume or can come into play, but not very often,Yet its used in scoring way to often. While the others are sometimes neglected.

                Thoughts please
                Clean punches landed / Effective aggression should always be the top priority in scoring. The other factors mainly come into play when this is close or difficult to determine.

                Personally I'd also be very wary of applying a pre-decided weighting to head / body punches.
                Last edited by Citizen Koba; 10-08-2014, 12:44 PM.

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                • SplitSecond
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Jc8804
                  Yeah judges are bias.

                  I score fights like this

                  1.ring general. Who dictates the pace and space of the fight .who gains the the timing and comfort.

                  2.smart agression. Meaning when you decide throw punches you become aggressive , are you landing your jab an essential weapon in boxing and are you landing power shots and are you landing body shots moving forward sideways or backward.I count head shots as 75% of the score chart for points 25% for body shots.how hard you hit doesnt matter.ring generalship will take effect if a boxer doesnt have power at somepoint. (Paulie)

                  3. Defense. Do you make your opponent miss with movement or head movement or do you deflect (catch or roll ) punches in which they do not land? Do you neutralize your opponents offense or smart aggression .

                  4. Do you hurt or damage your opponent ? Who would i have rather have been in recovery during the break physically .


                  Scoring fights based off activity
                  Or volume or can come into play, but not very often,Yet its used in scoring way to often. While the others are sometimes neglected.

                  Thoughts please
                  all of this lends to punches landed, that's why you shouldn't be bothered with this

                  ring generalship is who is having their way, it can go back and forth but you go about it who spent the most time as the ring general thus who landed more punches

                  the aggressor is simply who leads and lands more, you can be fighting off the back foot and still be the aggressor if you throw more and lead, thus who wins as the effective aggressor is the one who landed more punches

                  defense is also again, who landed more punches

                  the last should be clean/effective punches, which is basically who landed more punches which you are certain of and not punches which you just think landed(in reality it was blocked, avoided)

                  and so my point is, all you need to worry about when scoring a fight is who landed more and weigh in the damage against the output, do you think the damage this guy did with one punch offsets the rest of the work the other guy did? sometimes it's yes sometimes it's no

                  and on rewatch i give maidana that 3rd round, their landed punches was about even, floyd leading with maybe 1 headshot but that right hand edged it for maidana
                  Last edited by SplitSecond; 10-08-2014, 12:40 PM.

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                  • deanrw
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                    #19
                    Scoring by punches landed is the old ass Amateur way of scoring a fight.

                    Different punches carry more weight and can tip the scales more than a jab alone. Max Kellerman simplified it best of all. Who would you rather be at the end of that round?

                    That is the best way to score a pro fight. Who laid more hurt on their opponent? That makes it easier to write a 10 beside their name.
                    Last edited by deanrw; 10-08-2014, 12:43 PM.

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                    • Deevel916
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by deanrw
                      Scoring by punches landed is the old ass Amateur way of scoring a fight.

                      Different punches carry more weight and can tip the scales more than a jab alone. Max Kellerman simplified it best of all. Who would you rather be at the end of that round?

                      They is the best way to score a pro fight. Who laid more hurt on their opponent? That makes it easier to write a 10 beside their name.
                      I have to agree.

                      Do I want to be the guy who got hit with 15 love taps for 3 minutes or the the guy who got rocked by 2 hard shots?

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