Comments Thread For: Cotto's Adviser Says Team Canelo Won't Dictate Terms

[MDPopescu]

Cotto has only one fight left (in terms of really huge money) -- the fight in which he gives away the lineal 160 belt...
It's more than evident that Cotto will sell that belt to the higher bidder...

[Black Barty]

The opposite is true. Canelo has less options now that he is permanently tied to HBO. Cotto is not permanently tied with HBO, nor Top Rank or Golden Boy. He's a true Free Agent. He can work with HBO or Showtime, he's on a fight-by-fight basis.

The big difference is that Canelo is 24 and has an entire career ahead of him. He doesn't need to make a fortune in a single fight, he can afford to fight the Clottey's Vanes', Andrade's of the world for less money. If he doesn't get the Cotto fight, no big deal, he will have his big opportunities later.

Cotto, on the other hand, is looking to cash out, and who else can he do that against other than Canelo? Maybe Floyd, but Floyd is not even mentioning him, so I doubt that fight happens anytime soon (if ever). And Cotto is kind of short on time because sooner or later he will have to face his mandatory, and frankly, any prime, full sized MW is a serious threat to him.

So despite the "free agent" status, I think it's Cotto who needs this fight more.

[MrP4P]

This is exactly why I wasnt sure this fight would actually happen, they both think they're the A side. Canelo CARRIES himself like a star, which he is.. his PPV numbers arent all that but its justified by the cost of making his fight, they arent expensive cards. Cotto has the trek record but I truly feel in this situation the only reason Cotto is the A side is because hes a PPV star AND the lineal middleweight champion. Canelo was apart of the highest grossing fight in Boxing, as the B side. Cotto has steady respectable PPV numbers but its obvious who will be bringing in the most fans IF they fight. This isnt A side vs B side, its more like A1 vs A2.

[radioraheem]

The big difference is that Canelo is 24 and has an entire career ahead of him. He doesn't need to make a fortune in a single fight, he can afford to fight the Clottey's Vanes', Andrade's of the world for less money. If he doesn't get the Cotto fight, no big deal, he will have his big opportunities later.

Cotto, on the other hand, is looking to cash out, and who else can he do that against other than Canelo? Maybe Floyd, but Floyd is not even mentioning him, so I doubt that fight happens anytime soon (if ever). And Cotto is kind of short on time because sooner or later he will have to face his mandatory, and frankly, any prime, full sized MW is a serious threat to him.

So despite the "free agent" status, I think it's Cotto who needs this fight more.

You also forget that Cotto is not 40 years old. Cotto has made hints at retirement for years, but it has never happened. All he does is switch trainer, get a couple wins to rejuvenate himself, and he continues his legacy. Only the dreamers think Cotto is looking to cash out.

Cotto will only cash out when he is basically FORCED to cash out. You have a point about Canelo, but Team Canelo and Oscar aren't thinking with the mentality you pointed out. Because if they were, they would've waited on taking the Mayweather fight. Or not took it at all (kinda like Danny Garcia).

[MDPopescu]

... Only the dreamers think Cotto is looking to cash out.

Cotto will only cash out when he is basically FORCED to cash out. ...

OK... let's say that Cotto isn't looking to cash out...

... Let's say he doesn't fight Canelo or Floyd for cashing out reasons...

... Then who would he fight other than these two? Lara? Quillin? Murray? Or Austin Trout (again)?...

[MrP4P]

You also forget that Cotto is not 40 years old. Cotto has made hints at retirement for years, but it has never happened. All he does is switch trainer, get a couple wins to rejuvenate himself, and he continues his legacy. Only the dreamers think Cotto is looking to cash out.

Cotto will only cash out when he is basically FORCED to cash out. You have a point about Canelo, but Team Canelo and Oscar aren't thinking with the mentality you pointed out. Because if they were, they would've waited on taking the Mayweather fight. Or not took it at all (kinda like Danny Garcia).

You make a great point, Canelo and Oscar aren thinking with the mentality that the poster you responded to pointed out. Canelo didnt wait on the Mayweather fight for the same reason he wants Cotto and has called out Pacquiao lately. Canelo wants to tangle with all 3 top PPV draws before they retire, the argument can easily be made that Canelo needs this fight more than Cotto does.

[Black Barty]

You also forget that Cotto is not 40 years old. Cotto has made hints at retirement for years, but it has never happened. All he does is switch trainer, get a couple wins to rejuvenate himself, and he continues his legacy. Only the dreamers think Cotto is looking to cash out.

Cotto will only cash out when he is basically FORCED to cash out. You have a point about Canelo, but Team Canelo and Oscar aren't thinking with the mentality you pointed out. Because if they were, they would've waited on taking the Mayweather fight. Or not took it at all (kinda like Danny Garcia).

At this point, Cotto has to either cash out vs Canelo or move back down to 154 imo. At 160, every non-cashout fight vs a full sized, world level MW is an unnecessary risk for him. If he is to remain at 160 and not cash out, what can he do? Fight GGG, Quillin, Korobov, Jacobs, Geal etc and risk losing? Or ruin his own credibility as a champ by fighting the Lee's and Rosado's?

Also, Cotto is not 40 years old, but he's a fairly old 34.

[MrP4P]

OK... let's say that Cotto isn't looking to cash out...

... Let's say he doesn't fight Canelo or Floyd for cashing out reasons...

... Then who would he fight other than these two? Lara? Quillin? Murray? Or Austin Trout (again)?...

I seriously think Quillin vs Cotto is the sleeper fight that could happen next year. Its a big fight in New York. Which is why Cotto has been basically telling Canelo to hold his horses and not act like the fight is a sure thing, because he does have options across 3 weightclasses as theres plenty of 147 pounders that would move up for a Cotto fight

[Death_Adder]

Mayweather-Cotto II for the lineal MW title.

I bet if GGG held that belt Floyd would not go near him but simce Cotto wears them Cotto is an option fawking floyd

F- yeah, F'n Flowmows, when GGG and Martinez were ever brought up, excuses like 'Money can't make 160, he can barely make 154' kept being said.

Now that Cotto's champ, he can make the 160 weight limit with no problem and fight for the title?

Idiots.

[MrP4P]

F- yeah, F'n Flowmows, when GGG, Martinez and Lara were ever brought up, excuses like 'Money can't make 160, he can barely make 154' kept being said.

Now that Cotto's champ, he can make the 160 weight limit and fight for the title?

Idiots.

Except Mayweather wouldnt weigh 160. Cotto would be 151 and Mayweather would be 150. The day welterweights start fighting eachother for the MIDDLEWEIGHT championship is the day the belt loses all its value