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  • #31
    I'm pretty sure Garcia isn't returning to 130 didn't he already say that.

    Also Farenas/Pedraza are fighting for the next challenge to the belt especially if Pedraza wins he might cause some issues.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by jrrod02 View Post
      Again this is professional boxing, not the amateurs. Cubans have not won their place because they have failed to understand this one difference.

      A good example of knowing the difference between the two is Puerto Rican fighters. Puerto Rico, your Caribbean neighbor and one of Mexico's biggest rivals. They have an outstanding amateur program and constantly develop great amateur talent. However once these guys hit the pro's they know that they have to put on entertaining fights.

      Look at Miguel Cotto. When he became pro he could have easily just box his way to boring UD's at 140. Instead he chose to go toe to toe and bring us some of the most entertaining fights during his reign at 140. The guy understood there was a difference between fighting professionally and when he was fighting in the Sydney Olympics. In doing this he developed a following that went beyond just PR fans. You don't really believe he's the 3rd highest draw in boxing based only on PR fans do you? The guy learned English and worked hard to gain an audience.

      Until your Cuban boys learn this, you're always going to be in here complaining about someone not wanting to fight your guys.

      And again why is it that when Mexican fighters want to fight for money they're cowards for not wanting to fight your Cuban fighters, but it's OK for Cuban fighters to look for money fights?
      Why isn't Barthelemy calling out Burgos, Thompson, Miura, Uchiyama? Why isn't he saying he'd move up 5lbs and fight Crawford, Bey or Vasquez?
      Could it be he wants Mikey Garcia because of the $$$??
      ok, is a long answer. We also have a different view about what box is. Box is not about two ****** guys punching each other. Should have strategy, smart thinking. Is now more a business and controlled for some people who dont help the sport.
      The real cause cubans have to struggle is because they are better boxers. The last fight of lsc was an insult to intelligence with a guy easy beatable. Probably for you was an excellent fight but for me was an insult. The same to the fight between mickey and juanma.
      Cubans have to call out mexicans because they are the ones who controls the half of the business. In this divition is mickey or the japaneses in the other world.
      Unless mkckey or lsc dont do more fights like the lasts ones dont make an speech about a competitive fight. They are only pkcking the easy cherries ot buying the judges. Gamboa wil destroy mickey as well rigo will destroy lsc like lara won canelo.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by racostaa View Post
        ok, is a long answer. We also have a different view about what box is. Box is not about two ****** guys punching each other. Should have strategy, smart thinking. Is now more a business and controlled for some people who dont help the sport.
        The real cause cubans have to struggle is because they are better boxers. The last fight of lsc was an insult to intelligence with a guy easy beatable. Probably for you was an excellent fight but for me was an insult. The same to the fight between mickey and juanma.
        Cubans have to call out mexicans because they are the ones who controls the half of the business. In this divition is mickey or the japaneses in the other world.
        Unless mkckey or lsc dont do more fights like the lasts ones dont make an speech about a competitive fight. They are only pkcking the easy cherries ot buying the judges. Gamboa wil destroy mickey as well rigo will destroy lsc like lara won canelo.
        Difference being that when Lsc and others fight weak opposition they actually close the show. When Your guys fight weak opposition they manage to empty the arena before the 12th round. But keep thinking everyone's avoiding you Those dangerous fighters of yours. Whatever excuse helps you justify it.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by jrrod02 View Post
          Difference being that when Lsc and others fight weak opposition they actually close the show. When Your guys fight weak opposition they manage to empty the arena before the 12th round. But keep thinking everyone's avoiding you Those dangerous fighters of yours. Whatever excuse helps you justify it.
          do you really think lsc can win rigo?. For me is clear lsc is using evasive excuses. No one beside mexicans can think this can happen.
          And yes, you are right cubans dont use to destry the opponent when is weak. They are not abusive when the opponent is weak and honestly i have not joy with this. I want close competitive fight between equals not a juanma vs mickey or lsc vs a weak guy. But besides this lackness of brutality they are by far better boxers and cubans are avoided by mexicans. Besides mayweather the other one who made cabelo look like a fool was lara. They damage to his image is huge.
          Last edited by racostaa; 10-05-2014, 06:09 PM.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by racostaa View Post
            do you really think lsc can win rigo?. For me is clear lsc is using evasive excuses. No one beside mexicans can think this can happen.
            And yes, you are right cubans dont use to destry the opponent when is weak. They are not abusive when the opponent is weak and honestly i have not joy with this. I want close competitive fight between equals not a juanma vs mickey or lsc vs a weak guy. But besides this lackness of brutality they are by far better boxers and cubans are avoided by mexicans. Besides mayweather the other one who made cabelo look like a fool was lara. They damage to his image is huge.
            Do you really thing LSC is scared of Rigo? Do you really think he is afraid to lose? or have you not realized it's the networks and promoters that don't want Rigo on TV? Have you not realized that fans leaving the stadium before the fight is over is bad for the overrall sport?

            No of course not. To you anyone who doesn't immediately fight the fighters you want are simply cowards.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by jrrod02 View Post
              Do you really thing LSC is scared of Rigo? Do you really think he is afraid to lose? or have you not realized it's the networks and promoters that don't want Rigo on TV? Have you not realized that fans leaving the stadium before the fight is over is bad for the overrall sport?

              No of course not. To you anyone who doesn't immediately fight the fighters you want are simply cowards.
              for me is absolutely clear that lsc knows or should know he has nothing to do against rigo, and mickey against gamboa. A fight against with gamboa will be impresive. He fought against crawford at the style you like. Do you think mickey against gamboa wont be pleased to your way of fight?.
              Instead mickey said a lot of lies. Is he not afraid of gamboa?. Im sure also lsc is afraid of rigo. He will look worst than donaire. He is slow and without brain to fight rigo. They need another like him without xtrategic to fight.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by racostaa View Post
                for me is absolutely clear that lsc knows or should know he has nothing to do against rigo, and mickey against gamboa. A fight against with gamboa will be impresive. He fought against crawford at the style you like. Do you think mickey against gamboa wont be pleased to your way of fight?.
                Instead mickey said a lot of lies. Is he not afraid of gamboa?. Im sure also lsc is afraid of rigo. He will look worst than donaire. He is slow and without brain to fight rigo. They need another like him without xtrategic to fight.
                Maybe if people gave two flying ****s about cuban boxers we'll get the fights you want for your cuban brothers. It's a shame because RIgo is probably the best boxer I have ever seen, it sucks that no one gives a shyt. He would undress LSC so bad he'd get hypothermia.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by racostaa View Post
                  for me is absolutely clear that lsc knows or should know he has nothing to do against rigo, and mickey against gamboa. A fight against with gamboa will be impresive. He fought against crawford at the style you like. Do you think mickey against gamboa wont be pleased to your way of fight?.
                  Instead mickey said a lot of lies. Is he not afraid of gamboa?. Im sure also lsc is afraid of rigo. He will look worst than donaire. He is slow and without brain to fight rigo. They need another like him without xtrategic to fight.
                  I actually like Gamboa. I would pay to see him on TV. Unfortunately he pissed off Arum as did Garcia by the way. And we didn't get the fight. Doesn't mean we won't at some point get the fight. You're too quick to call fighters cowards. Remember you said Canelo was a coward because he didn't fight Lara at the exact moment you want it. He eventually fights him ,you didn't like the decision and Canelo is still a coward to you.

                  Haha there is no winning with you.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by jrrod02 View Post
                    I actually like Gamboa. I would pay to see him on TV. Unfortunately he pissed off Arum as did Garcia by the way. And we didn't get the fight. Doesn't mean we won't at some point get the fight. You're too quick to call fighters cowards. Remember you said Canelo was a coward because he didn't fight Lara at the exact moment you want it. He eventually fights him ,you didn't like the decision and Canelo is still a coward to you.

                    Haha there is no winning with you.
                    . Well my friend, canelo did everything to avoid lara. Lara had to come to his press conference and touched canelo's pride. I said i give my compliments to canelo to show corage and accept the fight, but was not so easy. He avoided as much as possible. Unfortunely lsc and mickey dont seems to have tha canelo's pride.
                    Even when we dont agree i can accept your ideas are intelligent and coherent. I can admit sometimes i go to extreme to move the discussion. Is a really a pleasure to argue with you my friend. For today that will be all. I wish you a really pleasant sunday night. Good night my friend

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by racostaa View Post
                      . Well my friend, canelo did everything to avoid lara. Lara had to come to his press conference and touched canelo's pride. I said i give my compliments to canelo to show corage and accept the fight, but was not so easy. He avoided as much as possible. Unfortunely lsc and mickey dont seems to have tha canelo's pride.
                      First of all, why does everyone act like Canelo is the best Mexican JMW? That's Carlos Molina.

                      Secondly, like dude, seriously, shut the **** up about Lara already. Carlos Molina already undressed that idiot after a two-year layoff. Let him go.

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