Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Held To One Point in PBA Basketball Debut

[megadeth]

Like you said, Floyd failed the weight vs Marquez, that's already a good argument to bring up, thanks.

1. There's a lot of people scared of needles and find it uncomfortable. That wasn't an excuse, that was just a concern beforehand.

2. Pacquiao wanted 24 days, Floyd wanted 14 days, please get educated. 14 days would impede Pacquiao's training because like he says, he has a fear of needles. 2 weeks prior to fight day is the most crucial training time.

3. The cut was doctor's order, nor was it an excuse, they never said, "Oh we can't fight, we have a cut to heal for 6 months" They just said they had had a cut and would take 6 months to heal.

4. Stadium needing to be built was the Cowboys venue to be made into a boxing arena with more seats. Pacquiao fought Clottey and Margarito in the Cowboys stadium. Did Arum say, "Oh we need to build a stadium which may take 4 years to complete"? No he didn't. That's not an excuse.

5. Floyd changed his number (Probably), IDK where that came from anyway

As for Roach, well, it doesn't mean it's all Pacquiao's fault, he reiterated in the video it was both guy's fault. The man has a illness, I'm sure you're happy you can take advantage of that though.

And there's a video of Floyd in his own mouth, own words saying he is scared for his health and life, "Cotto can't knock down Mosley but he can? Come on now, it doesn't make any sense."

No actually its not a good argument since Floyd never came in overweight. Pac has 2x however, so who is he to demand an overweight penalty?

1. It wasn't an exuse, yet he does drug testing now with no problems whatsoever. Makes sense!

2. Actually sir, its you who should get educated. Floyd wanted ZERO days. Pac/Roach were all over the place from "anytime no problem" all the way up to 30 days. Pac only said 24 days because he was caught in a lie. Floyd meanwhile compromised and moved to 14 days.

3. Now you are just making stuff up. Link where any doctor says that the cut will take 6 months to heal. NO boxing cut takes 6months to heal. Arum said he didn't know if the cut would heal......EXCUSE!

4. Lying again. Cowboy stadium wasn't even mentioned. Arum said that he would have to build an outdoor stadium in Las Vegas.

5. Pathetic....Look it up, Arum said that as an excuse not to make the fight in 2012. So anything not to say that Pac has had his own excuses right?

Yes, Roach CLEARLY said the first negotiation(the one you are saying that Floyd had unfair demands and conditions) was THEIR FAULT. He did say it has been both their faults...and I agree with him. But YOU are one there blaming it all on Floyd. Nice excuse by the way, Roach can be a world class trainer, but he can't answer a question in an interview without his illness getting in the way? Just stop!

More lies, never once did he say he was scared. He believed that Pac was on PED's and wanted OSDT, that is all that video tape proves.

[travestyny]

Like I said before, Floyd just got off retirement, dropped from p4p. Things changed because they changed their mind about fighting Pacquiao. You can't sell an item and once the buyer agrees then change the price. You have to be a bit more educated buddy. The document, once again, was from a lawyer, who made it without much talk with GDP themselves.

Again, what are you talking about? I'm certain I've got more education than you, that's clear.

The point is that the "buyer" DID NOT AGREE!

Shaefer himself said in that article that if 50/50 was offered in the past, things change and doesn't mean it would be offered in the future. Should he be more educated, too? You're a waste of time, "buddy."

[megadeth]

1. Floyd said it was the highest he's ever made. He didn't talk about any PPV buys. And actually, Pacquiao's camp counter offered with $50 million and whomever wins gets 55% of the PPV while the loser gets 45%. But Floyd rejected that.

http://www.badlefthook.com/2012/2/1/...-5-boxing-news

Why would he accept any offer like that when he was clearly the A side at that time. That would be ******.

2. How is Floyd more of the draw? From 2009-2001 (The $40 million offer), Pacquiao fought and won 5-6 times, with a few opponents he beat more impressively than Floyd did. He won a few belts. From 2009-2011, Floyd got off in and out retirement, fought only 2-3 times, with a cheap KO victory from Victor Ortiz.

He was the bigger draw because he had a larger PPV average larger grosses. If Pac didn't believe this he never would've said that he would take less than 50/50.

[QUOTE=HIGHNESS;15001821]Can you explain to me why Floyd deserves $120 million guaranteed while Pacquiao gets only $40 million flat fee nothing else, from the span of 2009-2011 for the 2011 negotiations?

You've been a member since 06, and you still don't know.[QUOTE=HIGHNESS;15001821]

Again, this was a starting point where Pac COULD'VE negotiated from, yet he decided not to. Ariza confirmed this.

[travestyny]

This "Highness" dude must be trolling. Don't waste your time.

[megadeth]

This "Highness" dude must be trolling. Don't waste your time.

Thanks. Your right, I won't!

[Thomas_Hearns]

[BennyST]

Gonna lmao at some of the manny fanboys' excuses for this


"It was his first game doe"
"He didn't stretch properly"
"Manny was being unselfish and looking to get his teammates involved"
"It was al Haymon's fault"

Actually, he had the wrong socks on, got itchy feet which led to cramps and his opposition knew him too well, and thus were able to counter him easily and force a huge turnover when he was getting wild and open in offense.

[HIGHNESS]

No actually its not a good argument since Floyd never came in overweight. Pac has 2x however, so who is he to demand an overweight penalty?

1. It wasn't an exuse, yet he does drug testing now with no problems whatsoever. Makes sense!

2. Actually sir, its you who should get educated. Floyd wanted ZERO days. Pac/Roach were all over the place from "anytime no problem" all the way up to 30 days. Pac only said 24 days because he was caught in a lie. Floyd meanwhile compromised and moved to 14 days.

3. Now you are just making stuff up. Link where any doctor says that the cut will take 6 months to heal. NO boxing cut takes 6months to heal. Arum said he didn't know if the cut would heal......EXCUSE!

4. Lying again. Cowboy stadium wasn't even mentioned. Arum said that he would have to build an outdoor stadium in Las Vegas.

5. Pathetic....Look it up, Arum said that as an excuse not to make the fight in 2012. So anything not to say that Pac has had his own excuses right?

Yes, Roach CLEARLY said the first negotiation(the one you are saying that Floyd had unfair demands and conditions) was THEIR FAULT. He did say it has been both their faults...and I agree with him. But YOU are one there blaming it all on Floyd. Nice excuse by the way, Roach can be a world class trainer, but he can't answer a question in an interview without his illness getting in the way? Just stop!

More lies, never once did he say he was scared. He believed that Pac was on PED's and wanted OSDT, that is all that video tape proves.

Um, Floyd came in overweight vs Marquez...this is where you lost credibility. I know Pacquiao went overweight once, but when was the second time?

1. It wasn't an excuse, just a concern, but it doesn't mean he won't do it.

2. Floyd was strict on 14 days, I mean they'll be tested within a similar span anyway, what difference would it make if it was 24 days?

3. Yahoo Sports deleted the link, but the Surgeon did say the wound was deep: http://www.philstar.com/sports/75183...-cut-down-bone

4. Point is, is that they wanted more seats. They didn't give a time span, so it would have been done.

5. You made that up.

You have to use your brain. Compared to all those excuses and they're not even excuses not to have the fight, at most, they're excuses to delay the fight longer for it to happen later on in the year. These excuses are more excuses NOT to have the fight:

Blood test, Blood test dates, Health is more important, $40 million with NO PPV buys, Told pacquiao on the phone "what if i lose?", Semi-Retirement after the first negotiations not thinking about boxing anymore, Manny needs to sign with Mayweather Promotions to get the fight, No Bob Arum (wasnt an excuse back then), Pacquiao needs to avenge his losses to bradley (robbed) and marquez (wont give rematch), Pacquiao got tax problems, Pacquiao dont do high PPV anymore, Floyd says he will vacate the WBC belt if pacquiao the mandatory, Floyd never answered the fight for charity, and most these excuses on repeat by the greatest self proclaimed boxer of all time. New excuse is to have the fight only be shown from Showtime and on Mayweather Promotions banner only. Yet Mayweather screwed up already as a promoter in Maidana 2 fight, hence why he's having problems with Ellerbe, and HBO is more common in households than Showtime. Come on man, you have to be smarter than this, must be all the Jollibee.

[HIGHNESS]

Again, what are you talking about? I'm certain I've got more education than you, that's clear.

The point is that the "buyer" DID NOT AGREE!

Shaefer himself said in that article that if 50/50 was offered in the past, things change and doesn't mean it would be offered in the future. Should he be more educated, too? You're a waste of time, "buddy."

You said that already man, you can't say anything else? You're on repeat because you're stumped. Point is, Floyd does not want the fight, he doesn't want it now because of his new excuses that are impossible to comply, and he didn't want it then. And then you call me a troller when you started first? lol I provide facts with links, you and your Floyd fan friends provide opinions from being bias. Floyd doesn't want to fight Pacquiao.

[mrpain81]

To be fair, the guy guarding him was huge.

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