Comments Thread For: Juan Manuel Marquez's Trainer Eyes Kell Brook in 2015

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    #81
    Originally posted by chacolan
    @TLC8 ALSO HAIL MARY PUNCH ..PSHHHHH!!...ur talking about arguably the BEST counter puncher in the business! Getting beat up?.. thats a big fat No..marquez dropped him the 1st time w beautiful punch..after that it was just a back and forth war..like always...now pac's knock down on jmm was quick w nothing really special about it..but it was clean and jmm was clearly not even hurt...i think shocked is the proper term for that 1...got right back up immediatly and unphased. ..Rnd 6 came along and things startin lookin good for pac. but like an experienced old fox being cornered he did what he has always done best...COUNTER!...u'd b wise to at least acknowledge that in ur next arguing point..god bless
    Bradley beat JMM easily 9-3.. Brook would beat him somewhat similarly, 8-4. unless there is no testing PEDQUEZ would show up & land 1 punch and send Brook stumbling across the ring.

    I really believe that if Manny decides to box Marquez he would beat him quite easily as opposed to fighting to his strengths.

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    • chacolan
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      #82
      @ PORTERISFUTURE ...I do agree that Bradley won fair and square..but it imo it was a clash of styles..Bradley is not as a heavy volume puncher as paq..hence creating opportunities for a fighter like jmm..a counterpuncher..and i love Bradley's heart..especially vs. Provo..and yes Marquez was whining a bit about his loss against him, but all the so called whining against paq was well deserved imo..Marquez knew he had the appropiate wins vs. paq and I believe so does 90% of all true boxing fans...now w Brook...not sure if i can call that 1 but i favor Brook only because of age. But it would not surprise me if exp.(Marquez) in the ring against good opposition like Brook was defeated..but yeah i think Marquez's best days are behind him....lol..and "PEDQUEZ"..probably...but its no less then paq deserved...talk about karma..that sword cuts both ways bro

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      • Thomas_Hearns
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        #83
        Brooks beat him 9-3. If he beats JMM. Brooks get a fight with Mayweather or Pacquiao.

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          #84
          Originally posted by TLC8
          No it's actually Marquez was getting beat up like a drunk, behind on all score cards, out of gas, just knocked down in the 5th and bloodied, lost the 6th round until Pac got careless and caught with one punch. So all the Marquez fans can hang on that one punch, and say all this ****** **** about how he closed out the rivalry, but there's nobody in the sport of Boxing that doesn't know Marquez got lucky with one Hail Mary punch. You're happy with your favorite pee drinking fighters outcome, but Marquez showed nothing in the fight to anyone except he took a beating until one punch. Pac has asked for a rematch everyday since and Marquez & Nacho know better than to go down that road. I think it's hilarious how these Marquez fans never want to address the beating he took, don't have a valid reason for no rematch after Pacquiao glady gave Marquez 4 fights and never really needed to give him more than 2. They don't want to talk about juicing and the acne problem in both the Pac and Alvarado fights, yet Narquez was slow and 40 fighting Bradley. LOL!!!
          Behind one point on all the scorecards after 5 rounds have been completed i think its pathetic that a paqtard like yourself holds on to that as some kind of moral victory. You do know that dont score the 6th round because Marquez knocked pac the F out? if you did score the 6th round Marquez would get 10 points and pac would probably take ZERO points for napping. Scorecard would then look like this 56-47 for Marquez! Scorecard are insignificant in this fight if you dont remember why have a look at the sig below

          somehow you ignore the fact that Marquez had already dropped pac in the third and act like that never happened. so you can continue with your delusion that was a hail marry punch and an isolated incident. For the record their is many people that know boxing and are in the business of boxing and know damn well that was no lucky punch!!

          I also like how you ignore the fact that freddie roach and pac and Marquez going into the 4th fight all said it was the last fight! No matter the outcome!!!


          pac was new and improved Manilla Ice going into the 2nd fight but manilla ice wasnt enough to win convincingly and instead got a controversial decision that the majority of media had Marquez winning

          3rd rematch happened because pac was running out of opponents that would generate ppv buys!! pac was supposed dust off Marquez and not even god could save him!! instead he gets another disputed decision that majority of the media disagreed with and had Marquez winning

          you mention things Marquez fans dont want to talk about but you continue to ignore the fact that Marquez had hired herdia a known ped supplier and pac did not demand extra testing when he was with ariza in the 3rd and 4th match. Marquez said he was willing to take any test as long as pac had to do the same test! Gee i wonder why pac didnt demand extra testing..?? Hmm.. Interesting..

          you talk about Marquez looking old against bradley but you probably ignore the fact that pac looked really flat against a punching bag rios when he did testing oh and the fact that ariza was rios corner and rios popped on the extra testing and was suspened

          paqtards are hilarious because anything they accuse Marquez of it could easily be turned around in pacs direction which makes them hypocrites

          accept Marquez pee breath

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            #85
            I think brook beats Marquez too.

            between porter and brook stylewise porter was the easier fight for Marquez. Not saying it would have been easy for Marquez but brook style is all wrong for Marquez

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            • torosboxing75
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              #86
              Brook stops Marquez IMO

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              • LinealChampion
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                #87
                Brook wins easily.

                He is the much much bigger and taller man, good counter punching, good power, good footwork, faster, younger.

                Marquez has a punchers chance at best

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                • mikey077
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
                  Marquez is a great lead puncher, he might not take the initiative all that well but when it comes to leading with punches he's exceptional in that department and Brook mainly defends by putting up a guard, Marquez will get through as he normally does. You need to move your head and upper body, I swear...I can't stretch that enough. The jab can do wonders but you have to do a lot more than that.
                  You know nothing about kell brook if you think he defends by just putting up a guard, brook slips punches.

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