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  • peplz
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    #151
    Originally posted by T18Z
    First of all, Barrera and Morales are miles better than 99% of Floyds wins. Bradley is better than Canelo, both in P4P and resume. Pacquaio has faced Marquez, someone he knowingly struggles with, multiple times and both won and lost. He faced Cotto before he started reaching journeyman status. He retired Oscar, and faced Hatton and retired him at his best and most relevant weight (140).

    Pretty much everyone both Floyd and Pacquaio have faced minus Marquez, Pacquaio has done a much better job at beating them. This goes for Mosley, Oscar, Cotto and Hatton.

    You'd have to be ******ed to think Mayweather has a better resume than Pacquaio at this point, honestly. I guess unless you think his 0 still matters (Castilo took that, btw).
    Bradley is better than Canelo?! Pa! You don't even believe that. Like Barrera or Morales would have ever fought Floyd when he was in the same weight divisions. We all know that neither of them wanted any parts of Floyd Mayweather. Neither did Hamed, Casamayor, Freites, Tzyu or Mosley. And this whole "Pacquiao did a better job beating the same fighter that Mayweather had already beaten previously" argument holds absolutely no water. I count Floyd's victory over Cotto as a better achievement than Pacquiao's because of the circumstances surrounding each fight. We don't even need to compare the performances versus Marquez. There is no comparison. And being undefeated definitely matters as a stat in the sport of boxing. (Castillo was given a rematch and lost that too, btw)
    Last edited by peplz; 10-02-2014, 12:34 PM.

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    • LouIE G
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      #152
      Originally posted by T18Z
      First of all, Barrera and Morales are miles better than 99% of Floyds wins. Bradley is better than Canelo, both in P4P and resume. Pacquaio has faced Marquez, someone he knowingly struggles with, multiple times and both won and lost. He faced Cotto before he started reaching journeyman status. He retired Oscar, and faced Hatton and retired him at his best and most relevant weight (140).

      Pretty much everyone both Floyd and Pacquaio have faced minus Marquez, Pacquaio has done a much better job at beating them. This goes for Mosley, Oscar, Cotto and Hatton.

      You'd have to be ******ed to think Mayweather has a better resume than Pacquaio at this point, honestly. I guess unless you think his 0 still matters (Castilo took that, btw).
      This is that "SKIP BAYLESS" type logic right here!! Good job.

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        #153
        Originally posted by peplz
        Bradley is better than Canelo?! Pa! You don't even believe that. Like Barrera or Morales would have ever fought Floyd when he was in the same weight divisions. We all know that neither of them wanted any parts of Floyd Mayweather. Neither did Hamed, Casamayor, Freites, Tzyu or Mosley. And this whole "Pacquiao did a better job beating the same fighter that Mayweather had already beaten previously" argument holds absolutely no water. I count Floyd's victory over Cotto as a better achievement than Pacquiao's because of the circumstances surrounding each fight. We don't even need to compare the performances versus Marquez. There is no comparison. And being undefeated definitely matters as a stat in the sport of boxing. (Castillo was given a rematch and lost that too, btw)
        I nominate this post for Flotard of the year... full of contradictions.

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        • HeGotPacProblem
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          #154
          Originally posted by peplz
          Bradley is better than Canelo?! Pa! You don't even believe that. Like Barrera or Morales would have ever fought Floyd when he was in the same weight divisions. We all know that neither of them wanted any parts of Floyd Mayweather. Neither did Hamed, Casamayor, Freites, Tzyu or Mosley. And this whole "Pacquiao did a better job beating the same fighter that Mayweather had already beaten previously" argument holds absolutely no water. I count Floyd's victory over Cotto as a better achievement than Pacquiao's because of the circumstances surrounding each fight. We don't even need to compare the performances versus Marquez. There is no comparison. And being undefeated definitely matters as a stat in the sport of boxing. (Castillo was given a rematch and lost that too, btw)
          The 1st Castillo decision was very suspect.

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          • T18Z
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            #155
            Originally posted by peplz
            Bradley is better than Canelo?! Pa! You don't even believe that. Like Barrera or Morales would have ever fought Floyd when he was in the same weight divisions. We all know that neither of them wanted any parts of Floyd Mayweather. Neither did Hamed, Casamayor, Freites, Tzyu or Mosley. And this whole "Pacquiao did a better job beating the same fighter that Mayweather had already beaten previously" argument holds absolutely no water. I count Floyd's victory over Cotto as a better achievement than Pacquiao's because of the circumstances surrounding each fight. We don't even need to compare the performances versus Marquez. There is no comparison. And being undefeated definitely matters as a stat in the sport of boxing. (Castillo was given a rematch and lost that too, btw)
            Canelo has struggled with every worthy opponent he has faced, as it stands Bradley is better than him, and so is his resume, no need to get upset. Mayweather also fought Canelo at a catchweight (if you bother bringing anything catch weight related up in regards to Cotto). The performance vs Marquez is the only leg you have to stand on, and it's the fight where Marquez moved up two divisions and was cheated on the scales, so try again.

            Being undefeated only matters when you resume is strong enough to stand up to criticism of facing the best; which Floyds isn't. Lastly, bringing up the rematch doesn't discredit the obvious loss Mayweather encountered in their first fight, it just points out your motive.

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            • jai mari078
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              #156
              I'm past caring. This fight should've happened five years ago. Not as much interest for me Pacquiao is not The fighter he used to be. Floyd has been banking on this and waiting for PAC to get past his prime and slow down . Just like he did with the De La Hoya,Coto,and Mosley.

              The only reason this fight is possibly happening, is because Canelo is threatening to fight Coto on the same weekend. PAC/Floyd is the only fight that can out do it.

              If they fight on the same weekend I will be watching Canelo/Cotto. Pac/Floyd is just a watered-down version of what it would have been

              After all the bull****, I just don't have the same interest I once did. 5 yrs ago this would have been the biggest fight ever , now it's lost it's luster for me at least .

              That's just my opinion .

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              • lefthook2daliva
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                #157
                I always had Floyd beating Pac w/o question.

                Considering that Floyd now looks to have lost a step (or even a half step), I question...

                Ok. So let's see it.

                But I am not paying any big, historic event money. They ****ed around and ****ed around and between their collective egos/neuroses, managed to **** that all up.

                50 bucks with a good undercard. Not a penny more. Seriously. I no longer buy every ppv that comes down the pike. U greedy, pretentious ****ers killed the golden goose.

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                  #158
                  Originally posted by lefthook2daliva
                  I always had Floyd beating Pac w/o question.

                  Considering that Floyd now looks to have lost a step (or even a half step), I question...

                  Ok. So let's see it.

                  But I am not paying any big, historic event money. They ****ed around and ****ed around and between their collective egos/neuroses, managed to **** that all up.

                  50 bucks with a good undercard. Not a penny more. Seriously. I no longer buy every ppv that comes down the pike. U greedy, pretentious ****ers killed the golden goose.
                  You make another good point, if this fight happens there going to want record money for the pay-per-view. After all the bull****, no thank you! I'll pay for Canelo/Cotto , which will end up being the better fight anyway if it falls on the same weekend

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                  • lefthook2daliva
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                    #159
                    Originally posted by jai mari078
                    You make another good point, if this fight happens there going to want record money for the pay-per-view. After all the bull****, no thank you! I'll pay for Canelo/Cotto , which will end up being the better fight anyway if it falls on the same weekend
                    x2 ..............

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                      #160
                      Originally posted by T18Z
                      First of all, Barrera and Morales are miles better than 99% of Floyds wins. Bradley is better than Canelo, both in P4P and resume. Pacquaio has faced Marquez, someone he knowingly struggles with, multiple times and both won and lost. He faced Cotto before he started reaching journeyman status. He retired Oscar, and faced Hatton and retired him at his best and most relevant weight (140).

                      Pretty much everyone both Floyd and Pacquaio have faced minus Marquez, Pacquaio has done a much better job at beating them. This goes for Mosley, Oscar, Cotto and Hatton.

                      You'd have to be ******ed to think Mayweather has a better resume than Pacquaio at this point, honestly. I guess unless you think his 0 still matters (Castilo took that, btw).
                      Without a doubt when comparing resumes Pacquiao wins hands down due to wins over both Barrera and Morales. Two great great names to have on his resume.

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