Disecting Floyd's "health comes first" statements.

[El-blanco]

I love these threads, they go on for 30 pages and everyone leaves with the same opinion lol

[Deevel916]

How do you know what manny cares about? did he tell you or have you asked him?

All we know for sure Team Manny made signing to TR a condition of getting a Pac fight for JMM and Shane and that both fighters did so to make the fight happen.

It's hard to then complain when Team Floyd then asks Manny for the same condition and then label it a "roadblock" when Manny doesn't agree to do it.

As far as leaving his promoter-Manny had no problem leaving Murad for TR and had no problem taking the cash from ODH/GBP.

This is an assumption by YOU whereas we all heard Floyd say it.

Nobody ever accused Pacquiao of being bright. He's a great fighter but does indeed lack business smarts.

[hectari]

When a reporter asks Floyd will you fight Manny, he doesn't say yes, he comes up with all these reasons why it shouldn't happen or what Manny must do first. and goes on rants about health.

When a reporter asks Manny will you fight Floyd he says yes bring it on.

Floyd is his own boss and picks who he wants to fight, Floyd said Pacman is a puppet and slave and fights whoever Arum tells him too.

So it is all up to Floyd, Arum and Pac cannot force him to fight, he is his own boss if the fight happens its if Floyd is willing to fight and be realistic about the demands. Pac already agreed to the testing, and the 60 40 split, but Floyd comes up with more stuff like Arum is the cause, that Pac has to fight on shwotime only and has to sign with TMT. thats BS crap.

Stop over complicating this.

[IMDAZED]

When a reporter asks Floyd will you fight Manny, he doesn't say yes, he comes up with all these reasons why it shouldn't happen or what Manny must do first. and goes on rants about health.

When a reporter asks Manny will you fight Floyd he says yes bring it on.

Stop over complicating this.

First of all, the question Floyd answered where he said health was related to PEDs. Second, how you gonna say Manny says yes, bring it on. They both answer questions how they see fit. How many times have we seen Manny say this:

[The Big Dunn]

This is an assumption by YOU whereas we all heard Floyd say it.

Nobody ever accused Pacquiao of being bright. He's a great fighter but does indeed lack business smarts.

This isn't about his intellect. His history shows that leaving his promoter is something he has shown a willingness to do when it benefits his interests. He sued Murad to get to TR because he was advised TR would make him more money. Roach was one of the main confidants who suggested he do so.

There was no "roadblock" for Manny when he wanted to fight JMM and rematch Morales. There was no "roadblock" for SHane or JMM when they wanted to fight Manny. There was no "roadblock" when Floyd wanted to fight ODH.

The question is -why is it only a "roadblock" when it comes to this fight?

[hectari]

First of all, the question Floyd answered where he said health was related to PEDs. Second, how you gonna say Manny says yes, bring it on. They both answer questions how they see fit. How many times have we seen Manny say this:

There are two people who have made this fight difficult to make, Floyd and Arum.

Pacquiao is a warrior he will fight whoever Arum tells him.

Pacquiao has said many times that he will fight Floyd.

Stop over-complicating this.

[Deevel916]

This isn't about his intellect. His history shows that leaving his promoter is something he has shown a willingness to do when it benefits his interests. He sued Murad to get to TR because he was advised TR would make him more money. Roach was one of the main confidants who suggested he do so.

There was no "roadblock" for Manny when he wanted to fight JMM and rematch Morales. There was no "roadblock" for SHane or JMM when they wanted to fight Manny. There was no "roadblock" when Floyd wanted to fight ODH.

The question is -why is it only a "roadblock" when it comes to this fight?

Its a roadblock because in order for Pac to do so he'd have to break his $20mil guarantee per fight contract with HBO and TR which we all know is not going to happen and Floyd knows this.

[The Big Dunn]

Its a roadblock because in order for Pac to do so he'd have to break his $20mil guarantee per fight contract with HBO and TR which we all know is not going to happen and Floyd knows this.

You mean the HBO contract he just signed? Floyd made the leave TR statement before Manny signed this HBO deal. So its hard to retroactively apply it as a "roadblock."

The fact remains that when Manny wanted to fight JMM and Morales rematch because the money would help him with his taxes-he found a way to get out of his promotional deal. It wasn't a roadblock when Manny needed the fights to make money.

As soon as Manny needs money again, it wont be a roadblock. Sorry deveel916, but Manny has shown he can get rid of any thing you and other posters call a "roadblock" when he really wants a fight.

[Deevel916]

You mean the HBO contract he just signed? Floyd made the leave TR statement before Manny signed this HBO deal. So its hard to retroactively apply it as a "roadblock."

The fact remains that when Manny wanted to fight JMM and Morales rematch because the money would help him with his taxes-he found a way to get out of his promotional deal. It wasn't a roadblock when Manny needed the fights to make money.

As soon as Manny needs money again, it wont be a roadblock. Sorry deveel916, but Manny has shown he can get rid of any thing you and other posters call a "roadblock" when he really wants a fight.

Pac was never going to sign with TMT no way no how whether Floyd was serious about it or not. Why make things complicated? Just fight the guy!

So what's your defense for the other 16 roadblocks that Floyd has put up?

[The Big Dunn]

Pac was never going to sign with TMT no way no how whether Floyd was serious about it or not. Why make things complicated? Just fight the guy!

So what's your defense for the other 16 roadblocks that Floyd has put up?

the Floyd defense card-the tool of the desperate.

Manny's own actions with regards to making fights he really wants shows he has no problem leaving his promoter. you can't now argue its a "roadblock".

Manny's actions-from trying to negotiate a cutoff, to asking rios for testing, to not accepting testing when JMM asked for it, and now this all show that nothing Floyd has requested has ever been a "roadblock".

The only roadblock is Manny not getting what he wants.