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  • #91
    Originally posted by Francis M. View Post
    Astalavista legacy.....

    Why are we even talking TBE when someone in his weight class and era won fighter of the decade.....lol
    Like that means something lol , may as well been pulled out of packet of Rice Bubbles , the guy has been KOed a number of times and once by a total bum , Floyd schools the guys that beat the meaningless fighter of the decade , Ive always said Manny is a paper tiger his resume proves it , ducks the 154 champ then CWs a 147 banned exiled guy to 150 for a 154 title then ducks Cotto at 154 who he already beat because Cotto said no CW , what a steaming pile of phoney resume .

    The so called Best Ever by its very definition in the very least must be undefeated , how can the best ever be beaten , fckn idiots in here .
    Last edited by Reloaded; 09-30-2014, 10:37 PM.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
      Like that means something lol , may as well been pulled out of packet of Rice Bubbles , the guy has been KOed a number of times and once by a total bum , Floyd schools the guys that beat the meaningless fighter of the decade , Ive always said Manny is a paper tiger his resume proves it , ducks the 154 champ then CWs a 147 banned guy to 150 for a 154 title than ducks Cotto who he already beat because of Cotto said no CW , what steaming pile of phoney resume .

      The so called Best Ever by its very definition in the very least must be undefeated , how can the best ever be beaten , fckn idiots in here .
      So you can't be better than someone who has beaten you? Ever heard of a rematch? Or fighting out of your prime years?

      Undefeated only means as much as you personally want it to. In the eyes of the boxing world its about marketability, not legacy. Look at Calzaghe for instance... no undefeated fighter has fought everyone they should, even if its not their own fault.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by techliam View Post
        So you can't be better than someone who has beaten you? Ever heard of a rematch? Or fighting out of your prime years?

        Undefeated only means as much as you personally want it to. In the eyes of the boxing world its about marketability, not legacy. Look at Calzaghe for instance... no undefeated fighter has fought everyone they should, even if its not their own fault.
        Think on it idiot , how can the BEST EVER be beat , its all BS fanboy banter bouncing around in fantasy land .

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        • #94
          Lol Floyd fed on baldomirs and Ortiz type of dudes for most of his welter weight stint.... Dude took 7 years to get into the ring with Mosley?

          PAC fought ODLH, Cotto, Clottey, Mosley, margarito all in less than half the time of Floyd's entire welterweight stay... That's not including Floyd's retirement and vacation....

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
            Like that means something lol , may as well been pulled out of packet of Rice Bubbles , the guy has been KOed a number of times and once by a total bum , Floyd schools the guys that beat the meaningless fighter of the decade , Ive always said Manny is a paper tiger his resume proves it , ducks the 154 champ then CWs a 147 banned exiled guy to 150 for a 154 title then ducks Cotto at 154 who he already beat because Cotto said no CW , what a steaming pile of phoney resume .

            The so called Best Ever by its very definition in the very least must be undefeated , how can the best ever be beaten , fckn idiots in here .
            What 154 champ did he duck? The dude could hardly even make 150 in the first place. Are you saying that Manny is ducking Cotto @ 160 now because Manny says he can't go above 150? You're the type of ****-tard that considers Bradley a bum even though he was on pace for "TBE" because he was undefeated. You're the type of ****-tard that believes that Bradley beat Pacquiao both times.

            TBE apparently has to be undefeated, so Rocky M is the GOAT right? He has a better record than Floyd right?

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            • #96
              Originally posted by techliam View Post
              The WBC and WBA have not enforced their mandatories on Floyd, nor have stripped him for not taking them, hence he still is unified in two divisions. It's not because of his skill, its because of corruption.

              Theres a million ways to praise Floyd for his skills, because he is an ATG fighter. But saying hes great because hes managed to be unified in two divisions at one time, is a bad way to go about it.
              Titles are lost in the ring and its sad you are supporting stripping a fighter who earned his world title....he has never won vacant titles

              Also.canzoneri defended his lightweight and jr welt titles against ross...ross gave him a rematch for both titles

              Good company to be in if you ask me....he did something that hasnt been done in over 80 years....nothing to sneeze.at

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Francis M. View Post
                Lol Floyd fed on baldomirs and Ortiz type of dudes for most of his welter weight stint.... Dude took 7 years to get into the ring with Mosley?

                PAC fought ODLH, Cotto, Clottey, Mosley, margarito all in less than half the time of Floyd's entire welterweight stay... That's not including Floyd's retirement and vacation....
                This exactly what Im talking about , Pac drained them guys and beat shells of them , fought Oscar 147 , ODH had not been that weight in 10 yrs and needed IV fluid transfusions to gain 2 lbs , Manny out weighed Oscar on the night how the fck can a serious boxing dude count that win as anything special , Forbes would have stopped Oscar that night , Floyd fought Oscar years earlier when Oscar was 165 lb on the night , realize what that difference really means .

                Cotto had to go to 145 , but previous Oscar was ok at 147 , then JMM had to be 147 and then Margo had to be 150 , Mosley begged at 144 coming of a devastating KO win and Roach said quote " your too good Shane " then Floyd beats Mosley and Mora Draws with Shane and now its Roach saying ok Shane we will fight now and be the first to stop Mosley , GTFOH .

                I could write a book on Mannys WW run , its pure BS based on match timing when fighters come of their biggest losses and CWs , fckn pac fanboys are so ignorant to boxing they just swallow the hype hook line and sinker .

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
                  This exactly what Im talking about , Pac drained them guys and beat shells of them , fought Oscar 147 , ODH had not been that weight in 10 yrs and needed IV fluid transfusions to gain 2 lbs , Manny out weighed Oscar on the night how the fck can a serious boxing dude count that win as anything special , Forbes would have stopped Oscar that night , Floyd fought Oscar years earlier when Oscar was 165 lb on the night , realize what that difference really means .

                  Cotto had to go to 145 , but previous Oscar was ok at 147 , then JMM had to be 147 and then Margo had to be 150 , Mosley begged at 144 coming of a devastating KO win and Roach said quote " your too good Shane " then Floyd beats Mosley and Mora Draws with Shane and now its Roach saying ok Shane we will fight now and be the first to stop Mosley , GTFOH .

                  I could write a book on Mannys WW run , its pure BS based on match timing when fighters come of their biggest losses and CWs , fckn pac fanboys are so ignorant to boxing they just swallow the hype hook line and sinker .
                  This goes for every fighter......its not only about who you beat but when in their respective careers...people ignore this to support agendas

                  Look at pacs timing he fights guys since moving up to ww

                  Either not far removed from career drubbings, losses or bad showings like mosley, margo, cotto, rios and dlh

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by PorterIsFuture View Post
                    What 154 champ did he duck? The dude could hardly even make 150 in the first place. Are you saying that Manny is ducking Cotto @ 160 now because Manny says he can't go above 150? You're the type of ****-tard that considers Bradley a bum even though he was on pace for "TBE" because he was undefeated. You're the type of ****-tard that believes that Bradley beat Pacquiao both times.

                    TBE apparently has to be undefeated, so Rocky M is the GOAT right? He has a better record than Floyd right?
                    He ducked Foreman at 154 , roach said he was too big and he would not come to a CW .

                    Manny beat Cotto at 145 , came out later and called out Cotto the then 154 WC , Cotto said no problems but no CW and Manny said no fight .

                    I didnt say Bradley was a bum , I said bums had koed him Bradley and JMM were not the only guys to beat Manny , dont put words in my mouth quote me on what I say not what you think I say , Bradley is a top class fighter but at 140 not a WW , Manny fights these JWWs when they have never had a single WW fight before , he also fights guys coming of losses like Rios another BS fight , but the Manny fanboys give it all a pass and then go all out to rubbish Floyd who fights much tougher WW and JMWs who are way bigger on fight night , Manny could not beat ODH Canelo or Cotto at 154 , but Floyd did , Floyd is also only 1-2 lb bigger than Manny on fight night , Manny weighed on fight night 148-1/2 fighting Oscar who weighed 147 , Floyd weighed 150 while Oscar weighed 165 , work it out boys .

                    If Manny says he cant go over 150 its real fckn simple dont call out 154 world champions , and if you beat Cotto at 145 but refuse to fight the same man at 154 , its obvious he used the weight to beat him , if Floyd now called out Canelo for a rematch and Canelo said sure thing but no CW and Floyd said sorry no fight , I would be all over Floyd like a rash , that is pure BS .

                    Im so sick of the boxing ignorant fanboys in here .

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                    • Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                      This goes for every fighter......its not only about who you beat but when in their respective careers...people ignore this to support agendas

                      Look at pacs timing he fights guys since moving up to ww

                      Either not far removed from career drubbings, losses or bad showings like mosley, margo, cotto, rios and dlh
                      Oscar, Mosley, Cotto - Except for one or two others, what you did was pretty much removed Floyd's supposed best opponents as far as resume goes. So YOU unintentionally proved that Floyd's resume is not that good! So please stop comparing Floyd's resume with those who fought all comers and have on their resume prime top quality opponents who presented them with HIGH RISK!

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