Fighters are never the same after Bernard Hopkins..add Cloud to the list.

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  • texasboi15
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    #1

    Fighters are never the same after Bernard Hopkins..add Cloud to the list.

    The curse of Bernard Hopkins claims another victim.

    Let's coun't 'em:

    Trinidad
    Jermaine Taylor
    Pavlik
    Tarver
    Winky
    Dawson
    Pascal?
    Cloud
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    #2
    De La Hoya belongs on the list too.

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    • IFightDirty
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      #3
      Originally posted by BrushMyHair
      De La Hoya belongs on the list too.
      Although true, let's not pretend that De La Hoya wasn't past his prime and entering his twilight years of his career. He was also fighting at an uncomfortably high weight class for him against Hopkins. Also, he looked sluggish against Sturm, and probably shouldn't have even made it to Hopkins as he didn't deserve the win against Sturm. He did bounce back and won a Light Middleweight title and did give Mayweather a decent scrap. Not too bad.

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      • embryo
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        Well Hopkins isn't going to be the same after all those fights. Let's not ignore that he's having speech problems already, trouble finding words, not really slurring, but speaking slowly and unable to find the words he's looking for to complete a sentence. He's a little spaced out..it's only a matter of time and it's going to really break my heart. Why is he still fighting, is it for his legacy and glory or for money, or both? Does he even need the money? Does he have tax problems or is he legit concerned about his legacy in the sport of boxing?

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          #5
          Originally posted by BrushMyHair
          De La Hoya belongs on the list too.
          When ODLH got to Hopkins, he was already slowing down, so you're right. By the time he fought Floyd/Manny, he was long gone.

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          • Macklemore
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            #6
            Calzaghe and Tarver seem ok, besides their personal problems.

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            • Black Barty
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              #7
              Originally posted by texasboi15
              The curse of Bernard Hopkins claims another victim.

              Let's coun't 'em:

              Trinidad
              Jermaine Taylor
              Pavlik
              Tarver
              Winky
              Dawson
              Pascal?
              Cloud
              I disagree with some of the list.

              Cloud was terrible long before Hopkins schooled him.

              Pascal is pretty much the same "poor man's Roy Jones" now that he was before the Hopkins loss.

              Winky was already well past his prime when he fought Hopkins and the fight was actually pretty close so I highly doubt it "ruined" him.

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              • bojangles1987
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                #8
                No no no, Hopkins doesn't get credit for this. If anyone "ruined" Cloud, it was Campillo.

                And how the hell can you justify Dawson on that list? How was Dawson never the same after Hopkins? Winky and Oscar, too. None of those names belong on there.

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                • IronDanHamza
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by bojangles1987
                  No no no, Hopkins doesn't get credit for this. If anyone "ruined" Cloud, it was Campillo.

                  And how the hell can you justify Dawson on that list? How was Dawson never the same after Hopkins? Winky and Oscar, too. None of those names belong on there.
                  Pascal doesn't belong on there either he's Carl Froch's left overs.

                  Dawson and Taylor beat Hopkins The "pascal ruined" version of Dawson.

                  This whole "Hopkins ruins fighters" is so dumb.

                  No he didn't ruin Cloud, Cloud's just not very good.

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                  • Cechmate
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by embryo
                    Well Hopkins isn't going to be the same after all those fights. Let's not ignore that he's having speech problems already, trouble finding words, not really slurring, but speaking slowly and unable to find the words he's looking for to complete a sentence. He's a little spaced out..it's only a matter of time and it's going to really break my heart. Why is he still fighting, is it for his legacy and glory or for money, or both? Does he even need the money? Does he have tax problems or is he legit concerned about his legacy in the sport of boxing?
                    What? Hopkins is one of the most well spoken and articulate people in boxing.

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