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  • JACK1190
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    #181
    Originally posted by Foreign Soil
    Abraham clearly won the 3rd fight with Stieglitz. Don't know what you saw there...



    Not even going to bother arguing with a Brit over a Brit. Abraham bounced him around like a 2nd class citizen.
    Well a Brit is gonna smash your boy, so be ready for that....if he dares that is.

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    • HEND
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      #182
      Originally posted by !! Anorak
      Do you have Malignaggi losing every bout he's been in?
      No but do you really think that Smith outboxed Abraham? Most of his punches hit Abraham's guard. He was a little more active, but not so much on the other hand Abraham's punches were wayyy more effective. If Smith would otbox Abraham then he would won but he didn't and his offense was seemingly a lot weaker than Abraham's so I really can't see how the hell he won this fight in some people scorecards. I didn't even wondering about after the fight that this will be a scandal here and some people will call it a robbery. I thought that plenty of people will complain about the over the top 119-109, but that Smith won the fight? NO way I actually laughed when I see that he complained after the decision because I found hard to believe that he actually thought that he won.

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      • HitmanHattonAY
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        #183
        Smith won at least 6 rounds, out boxed and out worked Abraham throughout the 12 rounds.

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        • Chrismart
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          #184
          I feel for Smith there, those scorecards were an insult to him. I had it a draw..either way, it was a close fight.

          Smith has always been a tidy boxer, but he surprised a lot of people with his performance tonight. Gallagher had a good game plan and Smith put up a good showing. Real shame about those cards.

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          • !! Anorak
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            #185
            Originally posted by HEND
            No but do you really think that Smith outboxed Abraham? Most of his punches hit Abraham's guard. He was a little more active, but not so much on the other hand Abraham's punches were wayyy more effective. If Smith would otbox Abraham then he would won but he didn't and his offense was seemingly a lot weaker than Abraham's so I really can't see how the hell he won this fight in some people scorecards. I didn't even wondering about after the fight that this will be a scandal here and some people will call it a robbery. I thought that plenty of people will complain about the over the top 119-109, but that Smith won the fight? NO way I actually laughed when I see that he complained after the decision because I found hard to believe that he actually thought that he won.
            I wasn't scoring accurately - I was too busy wanking - but I think in a realistic world then Abrahammer won by, at most, 115-113. He looked lazy in there, and, although Smith's offence wasn't great, he did look like he gassed him at points to the body.

            I thought even 117 was a piss take tbh.

            Smith losing wasn't an issue, or even a draw... but to say he lost eleven rounds? How many did you have him losing? Sometimes the Abrahammer did **** all.

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            • Weebler I
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              #186
              Originally posted by HEND
              Lol, How on Earth can anyone thinks that Smith won? Seriously don't understand. Someone please explain me. For me it was crystal clear. Abraham punches hurt Smith not just once on the other hand Smit's offense was weak and he didn't outwork Abraham that much that he could take away rounds only because of that.
              This isn't accurate, one of the reasons Abraham wasn't able to follow-up and finish was Smith's power, every time he'd go in hard Smith would retaliate with a big shot. He also backed Abraham up in multiple rounds with bodyshots.

              I don't think Abraham was expecting Smith's power or level of punch resistance.

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              • !! Anorak
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                #187
                Originally posted by Weebler I
                This isn't accurate, one of the reasons Abraham wasn't able to follow-up and finish was Smith's power, every time he'd go in hard Smith would retaliate with a big shot. He also backed Abraham up in multiple rounds with bodyshots.

                I don't think Abraham was expecting Smith's power or level of punch resistance.
                Yeah, if Smith's power was THAT weak, the Abrahammer would have steamrollered him.

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                • HEND
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                  #188
                  Originally posted by !! Anorak
                  I wasn't scoring accurately - I was too busy wanking - but I think in a realistic world then Abrahammer won by, at most, 115-113. He looked lazy in there, and, although Smith's offence wasn't great, he did look like he gassed him at points to the body.

                  I thought even 117 was a piss take tbh.

                  Smith losing wasn't an issue, or even a draw... but to say he lost eleven rounds? How many did you have him losing? Sometimes the Abrahammer did **** all.
                  I can argue the 117-111 as well but for me it was 116-112 to Abraham. He had more clear rounds. And he bounced Smith plenty of times. And Smith didn't outwork him that much... And he definitely didn't outbox anyone. Abraham was lazy though... But during the whole fight I had the feeling that if Abraham lets his hands go a little more, Smith won't be able to do nothing, but Abraham was too lazy and comfortable. However when he let his hands go, Smith was staggered plenty of times IMO.

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                  • deanrw
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                    #189
                    I scored it a Split Decision win for Abraham. Let me explain.

                    -My normal level headed Canadian most dominant personality scored it 115-113 Abraham and declares both are basically fringe guys fighting on the fake world level because both refuse to fight anyone actually good.
                    -My British heritage dominant personality scored it 120-108 Smith
                    -My German heritage dominant personality scored it 120-108 Abraham.

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                    • HEND
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                      #190
                      Originally posted by Weebler I
                      This isn't accurate, one of the reasons Abraham wasn't able to follow-up and finish was Smith's power, every time he'd go in hard Smith would retaliate with a big shot. He also backed Abraham up in multiple rounds with bodyshots.

                      I don't think Abraham was expecting Smith's power or level of punch resistance.
                      Yes sometimes he replied nice with single shots, mainly in the first half of the fight but usually Abraham still hit him more and surely did it with more power.

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