Comments Thread For: Rigondeaux's Manager: Santa Cruz Not Fooling Anybody!

[OnePunch]

They said the same shit about Canelo vs Lara and it generated more money than the angulo fight...

you dont think Canelo's growing popularity had anything to do with it?


Look, Lara is a credible fighter, but the truth is that 99.8% of boxing fans couldnt pick him out of a lineup.......

[JJRod]

First, if you don;t believe LSC is afraid and believe the excuses you have a big judgement problem. This is a the only logical explanation and the most probable reason for him not signing, to loose all like Nonito lost in one night.
Second, Canelo's numbers are lowering because his lack of performance in his lasts fights. He had troubles with Trout, he really lost with Lara and lost with Mayweather because with Mayweather money he can't buy the judge. Do you believe that is so simple as buying the judge and everybody is happy?. People can see that he is not as good as GB is trying to make. While he is not able to convince in this level his PPV numbers will be decreasing

Oh now the low ppvs are because of canelo.

Funny how before the fight was made you were saying Lara and Canelo was the fight fans wanted to see. How it would sell much better than Canelo and Angulo.

Now that it didn't outsell the Angulo fight you change your tune. Now it was because of Canelo.

Nothing to do with the fact people don't want to see boring fighters.

[racostaa]

Oh now the low ppvs are because of canelo.

Funny how before the fight was made you were saying Lara and Canelo was the fight fans wanted to see. How it would sell much better than Canelo and Angulo.

Now that it didn't outsell the Angulo fight you change your tune. Now it was because of Canelo.

Nothing to do with the fact people don't want to see boring fighters.

Don;t take me wrong. Canelo for sure sell more than Lara, he has al GB machinery and more than 100 MM of Mexicans backing him. Lara only has 2MM of Cubans in Miami because the others 10MM in Cuba has no access to cable PPV.
But for sure unless he star to impress his numbers will be lowering. In his last 4 fights he only won Angulo after Lara took his soul. He has shown to be another promoter creation like Nonito was and like LSC surely is.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Oh yeah, I'm sure they were real quick to offer themselves to fight on the biggest card of the year for a big pay day. Who wouldn't?

Even if Santa Cruz accepted to fight them it wouldn't be that easy, unless Frampton/Quigg were going to take what Roman got paid, which is very unlikely.

Not like Showtime would have sc****d up more money for the undercard just to cater to the great Carl Frampton or Scott Quigg.

Santa Cruz called them both out. Quigg offered to fight on the Mayweather card. Frampton tried to have talks earlier in the year with Santa Cruz.

Both times, Santa Cruz didn't want to know and ended up fighting the great Manuel Roman

Absolutely pathetic.

[JJRod]

Don;t take me wrong. Canelo for sure sell more than Lara, he has al GB machinery and more than 100 MM of Mexicans backing him. Lara only has 2MM of Cubans in Miami because the others 10MM in Cuba has no access to cable PPV.
But for sure unless he star to impress his numbers will be lowering. In his last 4 fights he only won Angulo after Lara took his soul. He has shown to be another promoter creation like Nonito was and like LSC surely is.

Again you ignore my statement. You said Lara vs Canelo would sell. You said it was the fight to be made etc etc.

Well the fight didn't even outsell the Angulo fight. And to top it off Lara ran the whole fight and stunk up the joint.

That's why fighters aren't lining up to fight your Cuban guys. Guys like Mares, Cruz, frampton, Avalos and others aren't avoiding out of fear of losing so much as they would rather face an opponent who would SELL and not stink up the joint.

[The Gambler1981]

Seriously they need to put Rigondeaux in with some guys with glossy records and he is going to have to go put on a show against what will be over matched opposition. ON the cheap at first to get a network to want to work with Rigondeaux but as long as he looks great he should do alright over time. Then.....

When ever he fights real opposition when demand rises he should fight however he wants but he needs to build on that knockout right now to create demand.


Crying about Santa Cruz is not going to make that happen he was lucky to get that Donaire fight really and lighting is not striking twice again the sooner he realizes that the better.

[racostaa]

Again you ignore my statement. You said Lara vs Canelo would sell. You said it was the fight to be made etc etc.

Well the fight didn't even outsell the Angulo fight. And to top it off Lara ran the whole fight and stunk up the joint.

That's why fighters aren't lining up to fight your Cuban guys. Guys like Mares, Cruz, frampton, Avalos and others aren't avoiding out of fear of losing so much as they would rather face an opponent who would SELL and not stink up the joint.

You are ignoring my statement also. Of course Lara fight sell less than Angulo because Canelo is loosing interest on fan base. If he continue winning fight due to buying judges his next fight will sell less and so on.
Obviously you agree with the theory of Rigo, Lara and defensive fighters don't sell. For me is promoters blocking Lara and Rigo because they are destrying the cash cows. Rigo destroyed Nonito, Canelo was fighting the air like an slow fool because he has no speed and talent, only he is strong. Cubans are risky for promoters, because they are few cubans able to buy the fight and they are destroying the ones who can sell.
At the end, LSC, Frapmton, Avalos they all know they will loose with Rigo and promoters won't risk anymore their cash cows with Rigo. Tha'ts the only real truth.

[whoseyourdaddy]

Santa Cruz calls out Rigondeaux and then fights janitors

It allows his fans to say "Oh look he wants to fight Rigo but they just won't let him."

Great tactic.

At least LSC mentions Rigo's name while Framton and Quigg, don't even dare to mention Rigo's forbidden name, They know him as "he whose name should not be mention"

[Dirk Diggler UK]

At least LSC mentions Rigo's name while Framton and Quigg, don't even dare to mention Rigo's forbidden name, They know him as "he whose name should not be mention"

They both have mentioned his name. Mentioning a fighters name doesn't mean ****. The only reason Santa Cruz mentions Rigo is so fools like you take it seriously and think that he actually think he wants to fight him whilst he fights taco vendors instead.

[brettWall]

Santa Cruz just needs to fight this guy win or lose and get it over with, then move on. Much like Canelo moving on after the Lara fight, Donaire, Khan after the Prescott fight, although in an entirely different situation, Garcia after Matthysse, etc. Canelo's rep would have been dented slightly if he lost to Lara, but there's no doubt he would still surpass Lara in terms of drawing power.

Point is you can beat the most competitive fights and it would do nothing among casuals if you bore people them to death. You only have yourself to blame why you have to beg for these fights. You don't dance the way they do.

Oscar needs to make this fight happen ASAP. Forget Mares. That fight will always be there.