From Montreal: Artur Beterbiev vs. Tavoris Cloud & undercards RbR discussion thread

[kiaba360]

He looked like a guy who is done. He had little definition compared to what he used to look like a year or so ago. Not that it would make a difference but it is an effect of him not training like he used to, partly because, as you alluded to, he no longer believes in himself. When a boxer/fighter gets to that level or mind state, they should just retire. Bute is another fighter that fits this condition. It's like there is no slight decline, it's just a complete drop off from good skill level to less than journeyman in a matter of one fight or so.

They turned into complete **** overnight. It makes me more respectful towards fighters like Zab and Soto-Karass, who keep picking themselves back up and trying to regroup as best they can. Once certain guys get shattered, there's no putting the pieces back together.

[LomaUsykKlichko]

What GYM is going to try and do is push Kovalev/Hopkins winner or Jean Pascal vs. Beterbiev to try and protect Stevenson.

They'll never match Beterbiev with Stevenson, until Stevenson is totally shot of course. But in the mean time they're going to try and use Beterbiev as a 'body guard.'

Why do u think so Stevenson got ****ty numbers he's like 37-38 I think their got feed him to beterbiev to make him their new star beterbiev packed the bell centre in his 6 th fight they can make him into a huge star with fights against kovalev, Bhop if he doesn't get destroyed by kavlev, pascal, later on mekhontsev, gvozdyk

[LomaUsykKlichko]

Also do u guys think beterbiev is going to be avoided by top guys because of his performance tonight

[kiaba360]

Also do u guys think beterbiev is going to be avoided by top guys because of his performance tonight

He only has 6 fights, he was going to be avoided regardless.

[Foreign Soil]

Beterbiev would knock Adonis out already. Horrible matchup. If Kovalev beats Hopkins, it's inevitable those two are hooking up in the future. I've thought of Artur as Kovalev's biggest challenge even before this utter annihilation of Cloud.

[embryo]

Why am I seeing the Paquiao vs De La Hoya fight from 2008 right now? WtF is going on?

[embryo]

Oh I see..Tavoris got annihilated in the 2nd round so I guess they showed the Pacman - Oscar fight to fill in time?

[Foreign Soil]

No he didn't man, he took several knees and got up on a count of less than 7, 8, or 9. This means he wasn't hurt as bad as people think he was, he let self-doubt creep in. Dude wasn't thrashing him with every single shot, he landed good punches but Cloud wasn't ready for a fight. Question, how many of this guy's other fights has he won by dropping the opponent 4 times in 70 seconds? Add to that the fact that Cloud was the biggest threat of his career and a seasoned former champ.....yeah, Cloud didn't show up. Not that Cloud would have won, but he wouldn't have gotten blown out in easier fashion than club fighters that are normally fed to guys with less than 7 pro fights.

***All of his prior opponents had more losses than wins.....Cloud gave up on himself, more so than he got beaten to crap.

Lol what? I hope you're trolling. You actually said Beterbiev couldn't afford to trade with Cloud before the fight. No version of Cloud is competitive with this guy. Artur would always be stronger than Cloud, with better skills as well.

[DeadLikeMe]

Cloud got wrecked. He didn't come to fight and could have gotten up easily in the 2nd.

[LSKennedy]

Bieberev is scary.