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  • bojangles1987
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    #281
    Originally posted by jayblack
    So Bayless gets criticized for breaking them up too quick, and allowing Mayweather to hold. And when Tony Weeks was allowing Maidana to fight the way he did everyone said Floyd needed to stop crying.

    So Floyd is damned if he do and Damned if he doesn't.
    Weeks didn't show favoritism. He allowed both guys to fight rough inside, because it's boxing and fighters are supposed to fight. Mayweather crying was pathetic, he only cried because he's used to the favoritism that Bayless showed him and Weeks didn't.

    Bayless was pathetically biased towards Mayweather in the rematch. It ruined any drama that might have existed going into the fight.

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    • bigjavi973
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      #282
      Originally posted by hitking
      Actually, the meat n potatoes of the "conversation" I was attempting to have with you was about the importance of titles, or lack thereof, in boxing. Because I am of the opinion that fighters make titles, not visa versa. The Floyd-Baldomir debate was simply the genesis of the intended debate. Your obsession with discrediting Floyd and anybody that doesn't hate him simply wouldn't allow you to see past your shallow agenda. No biggie.
      Again, what agenda? Whether baldomir had the titles or not, he was never an A+ elite fighter. With so many titles going around now, there are alot more paper champions. Super, super world, interum, diamond belt... im sure there is more lol

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        #283
        Originally posted by Pigeons
        Pacquiao and Mayweather's last legitimate KOs are vs. the same fighter. Except Mayweather did it first when that fighter was still undefeated.
        hatton got a gift against collazo and pacquiao put him to sleep in 2 while mayweather needed the turnbuckles help

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        • jayblack
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          #284
          Originally posted by bojangles1987
          Weeks didn't show favoritism. He allowed both guys to fight rough inside, because it's boxing and fighters are supposed to fight. Mayweather crying was pathetic, he only cried because he's used to the favoritism that Bayless showed him and Weeks didn't.

          Bayless was pathetically biased towards Mayweather in the rematch. It ruined any drama that might have existed going into the fight.
          So do you feel as though Maidana should not have had any point deductions in the first fight?

          And I don't feel as though Bayless showed any favoritism towards Floyd in the rematch. But I feel as though the first fight was fought so dirty that as soon as they got close he broke them to alleviate the possibility of any dirty fighting.

          What was it that Bayless did that made you feel like he was showing favoritism towards Floyd? If your argument is that he broke them to quickly ( which I did feel as though he broke them too quickly at times also) because Floyd didn't want to fight inside, then you can make the argument in the first fight that Weeks showed favoritism towards Maidana because he let them fight too much on the inside with a lot of dirty tactics without breaking them.

          I personally believe Weeks did too little and Bayless did too much. But I don't think either showed favoritism towards a either fighter.

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          • hitking
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            #285
            Originally posted by bigjavi973
            Again, what agenda? Whether baldomir had the titles not, he was never an A+ elite fighter. With so many titles going around now, there are alot more paper champions. Super, super world, interum, diamond belt... im sure there is more lol
            But Baldomir was none of those, he was the legitimate welterweight champion. That's why boxing is so subjective. If you're a person that puts a lotta stock in titles, you have to say its a good win. If you're indifferent to titles, the win is less important. As long as you're consistent. but you can't pick and choose based on popularity, which most boxing fans, myself included, tend to do.

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            • budfr
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              #286
              Chicken Floyd

              Yes, it was painful to see Floyd running, he always does but even more painful was the hugging. Excessive holding is illegal, refs should start deducting points or disqualifying fighters for excessive holding. Even more annoying was the fact that Floyd hugged AFTER he landed a punch, even if a light one. That is a supreme act of cowardice on behalf of Floyd the chicken. Hey, allow punching in wrestling then. Second rule of the Queensberry´s rules: No hugging. If Canelo is not weight-drained and becomes more aggressive and the refs deduct points for hugging, he beats Floyd and hurts him. Maidana messed up his mouth hahahahahahahaha.

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              • budfr
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                #287
                Originally posted by jayblack
                So do you feel as though Maidana should not have had any point deductions in the first fight?

                And I don't feel as though Bayless showed any favoritism towards Floyd in the rematch. But I feel as though the first fight was fought so dirty that as soon as they got close he broke them to alleviate the possibility of any dirty fighting.

                What was it that Bayless did that made you feel like he was showing favoritism towards Floyd? If your argument is that he broke them to quickly ( which I did feel as though he broke them too quickly at times also) because Floyd didn't want to fight inside, then you can make the argument in the first fight that Weeks showed favoritism towards Maidana because he let them fight too much on the inside with a lot of dirty tactics without breaking them.

                I personally believe Weeks did too little and Bayless did too much. But I don't think either showed favoritism towards a either fighter.
                He should have deducted points for excessive holding or disqualify him, dummy. It is boxing, not tango. You floyd fans are blind

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                • bojangles1987
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                  #288
                  Originally posted by jayblack
                  So do you feel as though Maidana should not have had any point deductions in the first fight?

                  And I don't feel as though Bayless showed any favoritism towards Floyd in the rematch. But I feel as though the first fight was fought so dirty that as soon as they got close he broke them to alleviate the possibility of any dirty fighting.

                  What was it that Bayless did that made you feel like he was showing favoritism towards Floyd? If your argument is that he broke them to quickly ( which I did feel as though he broke them too quickly at times also) because Floyd didn't want to fight inside, then you can make the argument in the first fight that Weeks showed favoritism towards Maidana because he let them fight too much on the inside with a lot of dirty tactics without breaking them.

                  I personally believe Weeks did too little and Bayless did too much. But I don't think either showed favoritism towards a either fighter.
                  Maidana had 4 or so incidents spread a few rounds apart. Some Weeks saw, some he didn't. Overall, Weeks let both guys fight rough and get away with it.

                  Bayless showed clear favoritism. From the start, he didn't let Maidana fight in close. He was ready to jump in at all times, and a few times did so when there was absolutely no reason. He never even told Mayweather to stop holding, yet took a point from Maidana for absolutely no reason. It was obvious what Bayless's plan going into the fight was, and it heavily favored Mayweather.

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                  • atomicsad
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                    #289
                    Isn't the first time we heard Mayweather ran from fighters and took no risks. Usually it is about chosing opponents though.

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                    • jayblack
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                      #290
                      Originally posted by budfr
                      He should have deducted points for excessive holding or disqualify him, dummy. It is boxing, not tango. You floyd fans are blind
                      Here we go again, another one of you one sided delusional little *****es who talk tough on the internet.

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