Example when Clinching is Unacceptable.

[ИATAS]

Molina vs James Kirkland. The entire fight. His only purpose was to hold there were times where he literally held for 30 seconds and would refuse to let go when the ref was trying to break. Pedo should have been DQd for that. Well, he was DQd on some BS so good karma. I'm sure he's probably clinching a 12 year old girl in Tijuana right now

[Daylyt]

Molina vs James Kirkland. The entire fight. His only purpose was to hold there were times where he literally held for 30 seconds and would refuse to let go when the ref was trying to break. Pedo should have been DQd for that. Well, he was DQd on some BS so good karma. I'm sure he's probably clinching a 12 year old girl in Tijuana right now

he is huh lmfao what a hoe

[LoadedWraps]

Now this thread was inspired by the thread talking about when should Clinching be acceptable. Link Below*


Fights where Clinching was excessive and unacceptable.

Mayweather vs Maidana 2 - Mayweather clinching every chance he got
Alexander vs Maidana - Alexander only plan against Maidana was to clinch
Rios vs Chaves - Chaves only plan was to clinch Rios
Abril vs Rios - Abril did not have a game plan except to clinch Rios.


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http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=654098

Jumped in to see if an example was Mayweather/Maidana II or Devon vs Maidana.

Didn't leave disappointed.

[Doctor_Tenma]

I'm an advocate depending on the circumstances, Mayweather utilized in a way that didn't allow Maidana the ability to fight off, not really an advocate for that type of holding but it's nothing new. Sometimes though, I've seen clinches where one could very easily make some room up close and work the body.

It's weird how Hopkins, Ward, Mayweather and sometimes Bradley can deal with that when it's done against them but others can't. I think if fighters didn't put too much emphasis on landing the big punches and invested on smaller punches in the clinches; the body, they'd realize how beneficial it is overtime, especially in the late rounds.

It's one of the reasons fighters tend to "mysteriously" fade, it's not a mystery to me but to a lot of you guys it is, that depending on who we're talking about too.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Molina vs James Kirkland. The entire fight. His only purpose was to hold there were times where he literally held for 30 seconds and would refuse to let go when the ref was trying to break. Pedo should have been DQd for that. Well, he was DQd on some BS so good karma. I'm sure he's probably clinching a 12 year old girl in Tijuana right now

Kirkland looked off too, I think if he came in lighter he would have gotten the job done.

[ElMeroChingon]

if a guys coming in head first why not hit him in the head? i don't buy that excuse for a second. brook was holding from the first round so it was obviously his strategy, tie up the lil midget because obviously porter can't do anything from distance. joke fight.

Exactly, kids these days forget this is boxing, use your boxing skills to hit someone whos coming at you head first. And guess what, the showmanship doesn't end there, you can use your feet to get yourself off the ropes too, isn't that something

[Doctor_Tenma]

As for Maidana against Alexander, I honestly can't blame Alexander, Maidana came in wide. Had Maidana shortened up his punches he might have found the same success Matthysse had, instead he threw very wide making himself susceptible to be held. He never once made the proper adjustment to stop that from happening, it's like his head wasn't even in the fight, at least it seemed that way at times.

[ElMeroChingon]

I dont get why people defend clinching as a tactic. There's nothing that benefits boxing from excessive clinching, which is why it's illegal. No benefits at all to the viewer.

[beerbelly14]

The thing is, certain fighters are able to deal with being on the opposing end of those circumstances ala Mayweather, Bradley, Ward, Hopkins, while others just complain and moan because they don't know how to deal with it, ala Rios, Maidana, Pacquiao, Provodnikov and those types.

[Daylyt]

As for Maidana against Alexander, I honestly can't blame Alexander, Maidana came in wide. Had Maidana shortened up his punches he might have found the same success Matthysse had, instead he threw very wide making himself susceptible to be held. He never once made the proper adjustment to stop that from happening, it's like his head wasn't even in the fight, at least it seemed that way at times.

lmfao you cant chalk that up to effective aggression, what cant you chalk up what alexander did as?

Maidana came to fight and he threw Alexander instead of using he angles/footwork he decided to hold. That is not boxing.