Clinching discussion: Thoughts, opinions, when is it acceptable?

[beerbelly14]

Hopkins wasn't a clincher till he was super old, and I give him a pass due to being damn near fifty..

He hardly clinched with Tito, who was a bigger bomber than Maidana

Oh Ok. So according to your logic there's an age requirement to be able to clinch a certain amount. Right on.

Smh at boxing "fans".

[Sugar Adam Ali]

The guys that you simpletons complain so much about with clinching, well take a look at their records.

Ward - undefeated

Floyd - undefeated

BHop - 50 years old on a streak of wins

meanwhile...

Maidana - 0-2 in last two fights

And the fight game has never been more boring in the history of boxing

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Oh Ok. So according to your logic there's an age requirement to be able to clinch a certain amount. Right on.

Smh at boxing "fans".

Whatever,, I don't like it when Hopkins does it, but at least he has a legit reason..


SMH at fools that meet mayweather in a store, got a stiffy and is now an expert in boxing..

[beerbelly14]

Whatever,, I don't like it when Hopkins does it, but at least he has a legit reason..


SMH at fools that meet mayweather in a store, got a stiffy and is now an expert in boxing..

He dropped 15g's in one visit and that's my store, not 'a' store.

And yes, I know much more about boxing than you do.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

He dropped 15g's in one visit and that's my store, not 'a' store.

And yes, I know much more about boxing than you do.

That can be your store, cong****, want a cookie

And I highly doubt you know much about boxing.,, how many fights have you had, how long did you compete? What was your record.. How often do you spar.. What's your gym... I fight out of the Peoria athletic club and you can swing by and show me how much you think you know

[beerbelly14]

That can be your store, cong****, want a cookie

And I highly doubt you know much about boxing.,, how many fights have you had, how long did you compete? What was your record.. How often do you spar.. What's your gym... I fight out of the Peoria athletic club and you can swing by and show me how much you think you know

I know about the sport, as a spectator and a fan. I don't box, I have a business to run. If I was a poor, broke, joke maybe I'd be boxing, but I have a stable income doing what I do.

[puga]

I am also for exciting fights and all but if strengths and styles of fighters are being compromised, abolishing it or even limitting it does exactly that...swarmers will absolutely wont be given a level playing field without clinching..i mean how many fights can we example in which if clinching was not allowed, wouldve changed how it went or even the outcome, molina kirkland, mares vs moreno, ward vs bika, floyd vs maidana 2, mathysse vs garcia...might aswell get rid of wide ring to minimize boxers from running and potshotting too...(really think they should make it standard tho for each group of divisions)

[Sugar Adam Ali]

I know about the sport, as a spectator and a fan. I don't box, I have a business to run. If I was a poor, broke, joke maybe I'd be boxing, but I have a stable income doing what I do.

I'm self employed as well and run multiple businesses, that doesn't mean I can't box or find time to do it... Boxing isn't just for broke dummies

[LacedUp]

Sometimes clinching is inevitable. And so it shouldn't be punished.
You have a pure boxer vs a brawler/swarmer, often clinching will occur because it's not always the two styles will gel.

The same often applies to a short guy vs tall guy fight, where the short guy will try and duck in low whereas the tall guy gets rushed and hence clinches/holds. It's also OK in this situation.

The one thing I can't stand about P4P Clinchers like Ward/Klitschko is that these guys will reach out for a clinch, and so they'll do it as a form of attack and not defence. It's first of all illegal and second of all extremely unattractive to watch.

Bad becomes worse when someone like Klitschko will then lean his 30 pounds heavier body on his opponents back.

[White_Knight]

There should be a set limit on clinches per round, on the 3rd clinch you're docked a point.

Trouble is, referees are so corrupt you couldn't rely on them to assign the A-side a clinch in the count.

I agree with this, although I would set the limit higher than 3, unless you meant 3 per round. The reason I think the limit would have to be set fairly high is because fighters often clinch to get rest. Less rest means more fatigue which means more injury (often serious).

The other problem is running. People say a fighter dealing with a runner should cut off the ring, but it's not that easy. The retreating fighter merely has to wait for his opponent to step within range and then fire his shots. His opponent has to cut off the ring (while monitoring his opponent lest he springs forward with an attack), step into range, and then get his shots off. The first route is clearly easier than the second. A taller fighter might find success in refusing to follow his opponent, thereby drawing him out; but a shorter fighter has no option but to get close: he can't reach his opponent from the outside. I'm not saying running should be penalised, but it should be taken into account when scoring.