Clinching discussion: Thoughts, opinions, when is it acceptable?

[LacedUp]

Floyd vs Maidana 2 and Klitschko vs Povetkin are examples of too much clinching.

Honestly, those two are not on the same level.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Honestly, those two are not on the same level.

I agree, but I think Floyd would have clinched even more if the ring wasn't the size of a parking lot

[LacedUp]

I agree, but I think Floyd would have clinched even more if the ring wasn't the size of a parking lot

Maybe, but I don't think it was worse than your average devon alexander fight.

Because it's Floyd it gets a little over emphasised, which is ok.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Maybe, but I don't think it was worse than your average devon alexander fight.

Because it's Floyd it gets a little over emphasised, which is ok.

Yeah, but Devon's fight are usually boring

But yes wlad-Sasha is one of the worst cases of excessive clinching in recent years...

[mannyman]

Would it be a good idea, even possible to have a number of permitted clinches per round?

Lets say fighters are allowed to have 5 clinches per round. Its then up to them to distribute the amount of times they clinch in a round if any. If they clinch a 6th time even if they're hurt they have a point deducted. Clinches are never carried over after a round.

This may be difficult for fighters themselves to actually count the amount of clinches but it makes it very easy for the ref have a clear guide in terms of policing clinches.

There would also need to be very explicit rules around what constitutes a clinch.

What do you think? Good or sheeyt idea?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

A clinch limit is a good idea... 2 or 3 per round

[sargo]

Clinching IMO should only be done when hurt. So if somebody clinches, that should tell the judges "I am hurt" and trying to survive. Which would then not be favorable to the clincher.
This would result in better boxing matches.

[sargo]

Problem is at times it is not so obvious who initiated the clinch.

[LacedUp]

If Floyd does the clinching it's acceptable, but if it's Wlad it's not.

It's clearly not the same tactics, and also Floyd doesn't have a 10 year history of excessive clinching.

[LacedUp]

A clinch limit is a good idea... 2 or 3 per round

I thought it says in the rulebook that 15 initiated clinches is a point deduction?

Or something close.