Clinching discussion: Thoughts, opinions, when is it acceptable?

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  • Sugar Adam Ali
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    #11
    I don't mind clinching when a guy is hurt and in survival mode..

    But can't stand it when it is used as a tactic like wlad vs Sasha or Floyd vs Maidana 2, any Ruiz fight... Those fighters should be warned, penalized, and then DQ

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    • sicko
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      #12
      I don't mind it at all, it only gets out of hand with the opposing fighter ALLOWS IT TO GET OUT OF HAND! I don't like when guys just start allowing themselves to be clinched and just looks at the ref to come and break because either they CAN'T FIGHTER INSIDE or DON'T LIKE FIGHTING INSIDE!

      WORK INSIDE! FIGHT OUT!

      Fan are full of it because if a ref breaks too soon that is a problem, if he allows guys to fight out then fans complain about that too.

      If you know a guy Clinches and uses Dirty Boxing Inside, you should have a gameplan for that going into the fight with that style of an opponent instead of depending on the Ref

      Julian Williams in my signature is the best way to deal with Clinching, Shoulder Nudge...SWING!

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      • Bigg Rigg
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        #13
        Floyd vs Maidana 2 and Klitschko vs Povetkin are examples of too much clinching.

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        • Bigg Rigg
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          #14
          Originally posted by sicko
          I don't mind it at all, it only gets out of hand with the opposing fighter ALLOWS IT TO GET OUT OF HAND! I don't like when guys just start allowing themselves to be clinched and just looks at the ref to come and break because either they CAN'T FIGHTER INSIDE or DON'T LIKE FIGHTING INSIDE!

          WORK INSIDE! FIGHT OUT!

          Fan are full of it because if a ref breaks too soon that is a problem, if he allows guys to fight out then fans complain about that too.

          If you know a guy Clinches and uses Dirty Boxing Inside, you should have a gameplan for that going into the fight with that style of an opponent instead of depending on the Ref

          Julian Williams in my signature is the best way to deal with Clinching, Shoulder Nudge...SWING!
          Maidana would have been dq'd had he done that to Floyd. Mayweather would have cried foul and Kenny would have obliged.

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          • Foreign Soil
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            #15
            Originally posted by sicko
            I don't mind it at all, it only gets out of hand with the opposing fighter ALLOWS IT TO GET OUT OF HAND! I don't like when guys just start allowing themselves to be clinched and just looks at the ref to come and break because either they CAN'T FIGHTER INSIDE or DON'T LIKE FIGHTING INSIDE!

            WORK INSIDE! FIGHT OUT!

            Fan are full of it because if a ref breaks too soon that is a problem, if he allows guys to fight out then fans complain about that too.

            If you know a guy Clinches and uses Dirty Boxing Inside, you should have a gameplan for that going into the fight with that style of an opponent instead of depending on the Ref

            Julian Williams in my signature is the best way to deal with Clinching, Shoulder Nudge...SWING!
            The guy in your sig isn't clinching, look at his arms... if he were a clincher his arms would have your boy's arms wrapped up. For the rest of your post, yeah sure, just look at the Floyd-Maidana fight... anytime Maidana tried to fight out of it, Bayless stopped the action. Refs play a big role in how the clinching game plays out.. if you want to pretend they don't, that's your narrative to be filed under fiction.

            Clinching should be allowed when hurt and sparingly allowed otherwise. Offensive and defensive strategies based off clinching is pure garbage boxing.

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            • Deeznuts
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              #16
              Clinching should not be acceptable as a game-plan in any fight. Using clinching as a game plan almost always=excessive clinching. Virgil Hunter teaches his fighters like Andre Ward and the new clincher Mares who made an ugly outing his last fight.

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              • SeekDaGreat
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                #17
                It is acceptable when you're a huge pu$$y and fear a component that your opponent brings into the ring. Or when you're on the verge of bein finishd and need to by some time.

                Any "strategic" use of clinching, refer to my 1st point.

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                • Daylyt
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                  #18
                  Clinching is only acceptable when you are hurt and trying to buy some time and recover but to do it as part of a game plan it is 100% unacceptable.

                  If the only way you can stop someone from attacking you is by clinching then boxing is not for you, sad but true.

                  This is what boxing is all about


                  Clean punching: “Clean” punches are punches that land on the face/side of the head and the front/side of the torso.

                  Effective aggressiveness: A boxer demonstrates this trait when he consistently and successfully moves forward in a controlled manner.

                  Ring generalship: The judges favor the fighter who controls the pace and style of the bout.

                  Defense: Boxers that skillfully incorporate defensive maneuvers receive credit in this area.

                  Clinching does not fall into any of the boxing scoring criteria.

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                  • The Hammer
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                    #19
                    Referees need to enforce the rules. It's sickening that Bayless never even ONCE warned Mayweather.

                    An occasional clinch to clear one's head isn't so bad.

                    Excessive, repeated clinching (Wlad-Povetkin, Mayweather-Maidana, virtually all of Andre Ward's and Bernard Hopkins fights) is not entertaining at all.

                    The worst is repeatedly CLAMPING an opponent's arm like Ward does so often and Mayweather did to Maidana in last week's fight.

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                    • sicko
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Foreign Soil
                      The guy in your sig isn't clinching, look at his arms... if he were a clincher his arms would have your boy's arms wrapped up. For the rest of your post, yeah sure, just look at the Floyd-Maidana fight... anytime Maidana tried to fight out of it, Bayless stopped the action. Refs play a big role in how the clinching game plays out.. if you want to pretend they don't, that's your narrative to be filed under fiction.

                      Clinching should be allowed when hurt and sparingly allowed otherwise. Offensive and defensive strategies based off clinching is pure garbage boxing.
                      Still a good example of how you deal with CLINCHING, Arms inside and use your shoulder to buy yourself some space.

                      Bottom Line once again the real problem is the lack of Inside Fighting Skill from MOST FIGHTERS today. Again if Kenny Bayless stops the action too soon it is a problem, if he tries to make them fight out like Joe Cooper or Robert Byrd does then people complain about that too so it is truly a Lose/Lose

                      Fighters need to take action into their own hand because Clinching is not going to go away, Clinching always been apart of Boxing



                      Boxing is not going to change things now so that fans favorite fighters can look better, as long as the fighter breaks when the Ref say "BREAK", not many refs are going to DQ or Deduct because of it

                      You P4P and you're truly as good as you're hyped up to be then you should be able to deal with ALL STYLES!
                      Last edited by sicko; 09-22-2014, 11:24 PM.

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