Comments Thread For: Froch Says DeGale Possible, But Eyes Chavez in Vegas

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Froch fought for long enough with little recognition outside of boxing's core fan-base. Tough fights against tough opponents.

I don't want to see his career fizzle out against mandatories or fighters with little to nothing left.

Putting aside any issues people may have with his personallity, you can't fault what he brings to the ring. He deserves better than this.

[Sroey]

Agree with Dirk Diggler UK - a third Kessler fight is pointless. Froch has aged better than Kessler and would dominate a 3rd bout. Only fight that makes sense to me is Chavez Jr. in Vegas.

[LA_2_Vegas]

Of course I want to see JR but I'm ruling that out until we see movement on JR's side. My 2nd choice was DeGale until recently....however now that some of the landscape has changed as it relates to HBO I think that a fight with B-Hop is something I'd like to see discussed (if he beats Kovalev of course). I might be alone on that. It's a potentially ugly fight; but we'll see how much Hopkins mixes it up with Kovalev. I think he is going to go right at him and surprise him, but still remain vulnerable throughout. If he wins like that I think this fight with Froch would have good timing. Maybe even if Hopkins loses close against Sergei they could do a CW for Froch

[LacedUp]

What propaganda? I thought Froch landed the cleaner shots in the first fight - it could have gone either way. It certainly wasn't a clear victory for anyone whereas the second fight, there was absolutely no question that Froch won.

I'm not that keen on the DeGale fight either. It would be far better than dragging Kessler's corpse out of retirement for a 3rd fight that means absolutely nothing to anyone except you, Kessler and Battling Nelson.

That Froch continously said before Kessler II that he felt he won etc. And then after he won the second fight he kind of conceded to losing the first fight. Regardless, some people had it a draw including Virgil Hunter - so I guess for some it was arguable. It was certainly close and competitive enough to warrant a third fight in my opinion.

I disagree. Mainly because I don't think it would be a good fight and DeGale doesn't really add anything to Froch's resume - but I do think it's a tough fight for him. But I think it would be a very ugly fight.

Ideal scenario is that Froch gets the Chavez Jr fight in Vegas.

Kessler vs DeGale is then the perfect interim fight. DeGale would school Kessler and then the Froch fight would be much bigger.

Ideal scenario is just that Froch fights Chavez jr. Kessler doesn't need DeGale. DeGale needs to get a world title on his own first, he's sort of where Groves was before Froch. Or actually exactly the same.

I also doubt DeGale would school Kessler

[Dirk Diggler UK]

That Froch continously said before Kessler II that he felt he won etc. And then after he won the second fight he kind of conceded to losing the first fight. Regardless, some people had it a draw including Virgil Hunter - so I guess for some it was arguable. It was certainly close and competitive enough to warrant a third fight in my opinion.

I scored the first fight for Froch at the time of the fight. I could have seen it 7-5 either way.

No one in their right mind had the second fight a draw. Virgil Hunter is probably the worst source you could have quoted and it's quite obvious why he said that.

I disagree. Mainly because I don't think it would be a good fight and DeGale doesn't really add anything to Froch's resume - but I do think it's a tough fight for him. But I think it would be a very ugly fight.

Beating Kessler doesn't do anything for his resume. He's already beaten him. And if he beats him again, no one is going to give a ****. They'll just say he beat a guy who was done and inactive. At least beating DeGale, he beats another young, hungry contender. A fresh opponent to add to his list of top opponents.

Ideal scenario is just that Froch fights Chavez jr. Kessler doesn't need DeGale. DeGale needs to get a world title on his own first, he's sort of where Groves was before Froch. Or actually exactly the same.

I also doubt DeGale would school Kessler

I think DeGale would beat Kessler at pretty much any point. Style is all wrong for Kessler.

Kessler should prove himself by beating someone instead of trying to walk back into a third Froch fight. DeGale would be a perfect crossroads fight.

[LacedUp]

I scored the first fight for Froch at the time of the fight. I could have seen it 7-5 either way.

No one in their right mind had the second fight a draw. Virgil Hunter is probably the worst source you could have quoted and it's quite obvious why he said that.

Beating Kessler doesn't do anything for his resume. He's already beaten him. And if he beats him again, no one is going to give a ****. They'll just say he beat a guy who was done and inactive. At least beating DeGale, he beats another young, hungry contender. A fresh opponent to add to his list of top opponents.

I think DeGale would beat Kessler at pretty much any point. Style is all wrong for Kessler.

Kessler should prove himself by beating someone instead of trying to walk back into a third Froch fight. DeGale would be a perfect crossroads fight.

I was there live, and I tell you - everyone knew Kessler had won. All the newspaper guys from Denmark and Britain (I was a The Daily Star at the time) pretty much thought Kessler was up by a good few rounds. Froch was fighting on the backfoot for that fight, not his best tactic - and Kessler was hurting him to the body throughout the fight and really hurt him in the mid rounds. I had it 8-4 Kessler, but some of the guys had it upwards 9-3.

I don't know about that, I'm just saying that some people had the second fight a draw. I don't agree with that personally.

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If you look there the majority had it 115-113 to Froch. It wasn't the wipe out that some people try and claim it was.

Yes it does. They are the two 'second best' super middleweights of their respective eras. A decider is always going to add, because then he can say he was the better of the two.

Degale, what does it add at all? He's already been beaten so that's not there. He's been fighting mediocre opponents and hasn't got a belt. His name has been in obscurity for the last 3 years and his style is all wrong for Froch. It's literally all risk, no reward.

Kessler matches up to DeGale better than Froch does. And yes, it would probably be good for him to have a tune up.

But at the end of the day, he's an established multi time world champion with massive backing. He probably doesn't need to 'prove' anything at 35 years old.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

You're trying to say the first fight was a clear Kessler win but the second fight was close?

Stop it, mate.

[LacedUp]

You're trying to say the first fight was a clear Kessler win but the second fight was close?

Stop it, mate.

That's not what i'm saying.

Both were obviously close fights. Both were competitive wars - and I felt each guy was the close, but clear winner of the ones they won.

I don't really think Froch won more impressively than Kessler did in his fight. I think I had both 116-112 to the winner, if I didn't have to score equal rounds of which there were plenty in both fights.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I think about a grand total of one person on here would agree with you and his name is Battling Nelson which says it all. You've both got some emotional attachment to Kessler so I guess it's understandable.

[LacedUp]

I think about a grand total of one person on here would agree with you and his name is Battling Nelson which says it all. You've both got some emotional attachment to Kessler so I guess it's understandable.

Or maybe you have that with Froch ;-)

I like both guys. I have no reason to be biased toward either one. Both are my two favourite active fighters. Or less active, if we're talking Kessler.