Why do people say ROC NATION is a force in boxing?

[Beercules]

Part of the illuminati /thread

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Not yet relevant in the sport in regard to action but to dismiss them as a force to be reckoned with is a fool's mistake.

I agree they have potential, but they haven't done anything to this point to be proclaimed a force yet,, remember less than 2 years ago 50cent was gonna make waves..

[TonitosWay]

if they can sign kevin durant they could make a major move real soon, who knows they might even help andre ward out his situation and base the company around him.

I was thinking of this the other day.

People who aren't business minded don't accept that money talks & can change almost anything.

I agree they have potential, but they haven't done anything to this point to be proclaimed a force yet,, remember less than 2 years ago 50cent was gonna make waves..

Def already agreed that they're irrelevant as in terms of being on the map at this point but Haymon knows the difference between an experienced enterprise/team & 50 cent.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Winning purse bids means they were trying to be promoters, instead of an advisor role with fighters like haymon...

So does that mean they are trying to compete with top rank and gbp

[daggum]

they put pressure on haymon and haymon now has to pay quillin 1.5 mill for his next joke fight. showtime isn't going to let this kind of crap continue forever, the backlash against espinoza and haymon will only grow and they will be out just like they were out at hbo except now with no where to go. they just sped up haymon's downfall which is good for boxing. hopefully we can get back to real fights and not joke set-ups and raiding a network for funds.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

I was thinking of this the other day.

People who aren't business minded don't accept that money talks & can change almost anything.

But it seems like they are going to be promoters instead of advisor/agents..

No matter how much money you have, their is only true tv money with hbo and showtime.. Their dates are already for the most part owned by gbp/top rank so it's nearly impossible to gain more than one show during the year

[HanzGruber]

Soon my friend. Just wait and embrace

[TonitosWay]

But it seems like they are going to be promoters instead of advisor/agents..

No matter how much money you have, their is only true tv money with hbo and showtime.. Their dates are already for the most part owned by gbp/top rank so it's nearly impossible to gain more than one show during the year

I see where you are coming from & agree that it isn't easy getting your foot in the door of this business but to dismiss any change or using the words "no matter how much money you have" in regards to the business world is ignorant.

Nothing stays the same forever; especially in in regards to business.

(Really exhausted the word "business" here)

[Weebler I]

I haven't heard anyone say they are a force.

But, they've got Haymon shook and hemorrhaging titles which is both amusing and a positive step in terms of getting rid of the b/s title defenses Haymon fighters have been involved in.

Danny Garcia, you're next.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Anyone think it's possible that maybe jay-z being from Brooklyn wanted to put on a huge Brooklyn show with quillen, and saw his chance with the purse bid.. Maybe they aren't in it for the long term..

Phage they done anything else,, rumor has it they will bid n stiverne-wilder..