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  • #21
    From an entertainment standpoint-- worst boxer alive

    A paycut is not good enough for this Nyquil inducing athlete ..I hate to say this (actually I don't because he sucks on live TV) because again I'm a purist but there are limits to even a purist..he is boring.

    He needs to be punished until he changes his style and approach to boxing. You know he should be punished...because he knew what was at stake especially after the ridicule he received from the fight he had prior and Arum had to pull out all the stops to get him this date and he still delivered the same boring performance.

    Even with the fans booing, he didn't care...he already got our money and said to himself "I'm going to fight my boring style and win"

    Sometimes it isn't about just winning, it's about how you win especially when you are fighting an opponent not in your league.

    Punishment is in order, let him fight off US television until El Chacel and his moronic manager realizes that fighting on HBO (or any cable provider) is a privilege....NOT A RIGHT!!!

    Arum is evil incarnate but as evil as he is....even he doesn't deserve to promote a sleep inducing, insomnia curing, fighter.

    Thank God almighty that he allowed me the opportunity to see July 19th, this was the day that HBO and Arum give El Chacel and his boxing career death's sweet release.

    He is the same even when he's not fighting....look at the expression of this boring, boring man



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    • #22
      Originally posted by lazaron72 View Post
      At least rigo will fight in the USA , probably miami . I'll be there .

      Congratulations to caribe since they beat bob arum and rigo won't fight in China . See if Avalos shows up
      And doesn't pull a quilling " melted chocalate " move .

      Hit and not be hit .

      caribe didnt "beat" arum, because Arum didnt bid in the first place. Arum not bidding can only mean one thing, that he has something else in mind for Avalos........

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      • #23
        Caribe Promotions + Age + Reluctance to leave his useless Promotional company = Waste of elite talent that could be achieving great heights with proper guidance. So if Avalos pulls out in order to fight Frampton, what then? How the hell could they pass up on multi million dollar deals? Unless Rigo cleans up his Promotional mess I doubt we will see any quality names in the ring with him. Top Rank and Al Haymon are reluctant to work with him due to Caribe, two important en****** in the sport that are key elements in securing fights with large purses and good names. The fact that no one else showed up to bid for this fight from a special fighter in the likes of Rigo should be ringing alarms. This entire situation is a mess and more firepower happily handed over to the fighters such as Leo whom aren't excited to actually face Rigo in the ring.

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        • #24
          Gary Hyde's been 100% behind Rigo & really needs some credit for his success. Santa Cruz, Frampton & Quigg have very cagey management that is holding back things @ 122Lb!

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          • #25
            Originally posted by LomaUsykKlichko View Post
            The way i see it is that it wasnt fully TR fault why rigo couldnt get good fights
            It definitely wasn't. Rigo got a fight with Donaire, probably one the biggest fight that could be made at that weight class. A fight people said Arum would not put Donaire in. People say he couldn't get good fights but he did get the biggest fight at the time.

            Originally posted by PureBoxing101 View Post
            It's a damn shame how Rigo's career is being handled. This guy is a gem to watch, poetry in the form of boxing, and can't get a fight with a MAJOR PROMOTER. Am I missing something? With his talent, I'd be showcasing it three to four times a year. He's not a PPV star and probably never will be but he should be featured on more undercards. The problem Arum had with him is that he couldn't turn Rigo into a MAIN-EVENT attraction, but why shelve him? I think Rigo is a lot more fun to watch, than some of these pathetic Co-Main Events, and even lamer undercards.

            Rigo versus ANYONE with a PULSE > 80% of PPV undercards (and even some MAIN EVENTS). Lol I exaggerate, but still.
            Well he was with a major promoter. That promoter got him the biggest fight of his career, and got HBO to give him his own headlining card, even after they said they never wanted him back.

            And at one time, Rigo was fighting on Pacquiao undercards. But Rigo and his team didn't think that major promoter was doing a good job so they left him to become a star on his own. So now we're seeing how that goes for him...

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            • #26
              doubt it goes 2 the Dominican, there would b no $$ from a live gate, no mention of live TV, so that's a good purse bid, split 75/25...

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              • #27
                Originally posted by PureBoxing101 View Post
                It's a damn shame how Rigo's career is being handled. This guy is a gem to watch, poetry in the form of boxing, and can't get a fight with a MAJOR PROMOTER. Am I missing something? With his talent, I'd be showcasing it three to four times a year. He's not a PPV star and probably never will be but he should be featured on more undercards. The problem Arum had with him is that he couldn't turn Rigo into a MAIN-EVENT attraction, but why shelve him? I think Rigo is a lot more fun to watch, than some of these pathetic Co-Main Events, and even lamer undercards.

                Rigo versus ANYONE with a PULSE > 80% of PPV undercards (and even some MAIN EVENTS). Lol I exaggerate, but still.



                i don't think you'e a good evaluator of what sells in boxing.

                a cuban in his mid 30's, weighing 122 lbs, speaking no english, and with a style that's boring to the layman, will never sell.


                you'd probably lose money if you promoted rigondeaux. i know it'shard for people who don't run a business to understand how you can work hard and still lose money, but that's the reality of the way these promotors manage risk.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by New England View Post
                  i don't think you'e a good evaluator of what sells in boxing.

                  a cuban in his mid 30's, weighing 122 lbs, speaking no english, and with a style that's boring to the layman, will never sell.


                  you'd probably lose money if you promoted rigondeaux. i know it'shard for people who don't run a business to understand how you can work hard and still lose money, but that's the reality of the way these promotors manage risk.
                  when fights like vazquez-bey and smith-molina can make it onto major cards i don't see why rigondeaux shouldn't. it's a damn shame that arguably one of the most talented fighters of all time can't fulfil his potential because casual fans aren't interested.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by New England View Post
                    avalos is f#cking dead.


                    he sucks. he is going to be completely outclassed, and probably stopped.
                    In what round does Carl Frampton KO him?

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by NEETzsche View Post
                      when fights like vazquez-bey and smith-molina can make it onto major cards i don't see why rigondeaux shouldn't. it's a damn shame that arguably one of the most talented fighters of all time can't fulfil his potential because casual fans aren't interested.
                      To be honest with you I'm sure if Floyd wasn't headlining both fights the arena would have been emptied within 2 rounds. In fact, Vasquez and Molina didn't make it onto major PPV undercards because they pull in a massive crowd or their "fan base" is loyal to them, no. They were placed on those undercards because they were lined up to hand over their belts to TMT fighters, simple as that.

                      So therefore Molina vs Smith and Vasquez vs Bey made it on a major PPV undercard due to ulterior motives. Rigo on the other hand doesn't only empty out arenas, but will most likely not be as easy to rip his belts away from. Plus, TMT has no fighters at 122 that I know of and I'm pretty sure they are not too concerned with those weights.

                      At the end of the day the more time passes and Rigo's situation begins to unfold before our very eyes, the more I come to realize one thing. Not only are Promotional companies turned off due to his style that only appeals to the hardcore fans, but working with him seems to be a nightmare due to Caribe Promotions. Essentially it's a lose/lose and unless Rigo ditches his leeching team, I doubt things will get any easier for him. The man is in mid thirties and is practically in career limbo, although he is massively skilled those skills in boxing's current terrain can only take you so far. Especially when you have limited communication towards the general public due to a language barrier, unappealing style to the masses and to top off this underwhelming crisis of a situation, a massive sprinkle of leech from a Promotional company with their heads up their ass.

                      Looking at everything at hand you should also realize Rigo should be smart enough to realize his current Promotional company is doing him no favours. He left Top Rank because he felt ignored, etc.. turned down multi million dollar deals, just to turn around and most likely fight for what he would have considered chump change under the TR banner a few years ago. It's sad to see Rigo most likely fighting in some obscure venues, most likely untelevized and being paid 1/5 of the amount a fighter like Leo Santa Cruz is getting paid to fight a fighter in the likes of Roman the "Sparring Partner".

                      However, I'm done feeling bad for a man whom will not part with his own ******ity and ignorance. I am a massive fan of the sport and talent such as Rigo is something special to witness. In fact us hardcore boxing fans got a real treat with Guillermo***8230; but once the sugar coating wears out and the flavour of the month becomes monotonous, the situation dulls and you lose interest. Instead of celebrating Rigo as the fighter whom he could be we sit here and wonder why he isn't. We can call everyone ducks at 122, if so then I suppose they are in the lavish park Rigo can only see from behind bars while he swims in his shallow puddle filled with leeches and snakes.

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