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  • jayblack
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    #151
    Originally posted by White_Knight
    4 of Marquez' last 11 fights were against southpaws.

    But the problem is not really southpaws as such. It's the southpaws he elected to face and those he opted not to. Surely you can see the difference in quality between Judah, Ortiz, and Guerrero and Pacquiao, Martinez, and Williams.
    So in Marquez' last 11 fights he fought 1 southpaw. Because you fight 1 guy multiple times doesn't mean you're fighting more than one southpaw. Just like Mayweather hasn't beaten 47 different fighters, he beat 45.

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    • Jsmooth9876
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      #152
      Originally posted by jayblack
      Mayweather made that offer to Pac in 2012. in 2012 Forbes list had Mayweather as the highest paid athlete with Floyd making more than 85mil. that 85 mil came with just 2 fights. So I think your math may be wrong.
      The fight was rumored to happen in May 2012. Mayweathers 2 fights before had guarantees of 22.5 million vs Mosely and $25 million vs Ortiz. So like it or not, guaranteeing himself close to $100-125 million to Mannys $40 was ******.

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      • jayblack
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        #153
        Originally posted by Jsmooth9876
        The fight was rumored to happen in May 2012. Mayweathers 2 fights before had guarantees of 22.5 million vs Mosely and $25 million vs Ortiz. So like it or not, guaranteeing himself close to $100-125 million to Mannys $40 was ******.
        What was Manny's highest guarantee prior to may 2012?

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        • chico malo ali
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          #154
          cant believe a word this rat of bob says.

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          • Det. Conan
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            #155
            Originally posted by Bronx2245
            May 2011: Manny defeats Mosely (already loss to Floyd, no belt @ WW)
            Sep 2011: Floyd defeats Ortiz (coming off win against Berto, WW Champ)

            May 2012: Manny loses to Bradley (Bradley coming off a win to Casamayor)
            May 2012: Floyd defeats Cotto @ 154 (becomes Jr. Middleweight Champ)

            Dec 2012: Manny gets KTFO by Marquez
            May 2013: Floyd beats Guererro (WBA interim WW Champ)

            Nov 2013: Manny fight Rios (coming off loss @ 140 to Alvarado)
            Sep 2013: Floyd defeats Canelo @ 152 (Canelo just beat Trout for title)

            Apr 2014: Manny gets revenge on Bradley (Bradley nearly killed by Ruslan)
            May 2014: Floyd defeats Maidana (Maidana WBA WW Champ)

            Nov 2014: Manny will fight Algeri (Algeri Jr. WW Champ)
            Sep 2014: Floyd defeats Maidana (again, bye haters)

            Whose fighting the top fighters in the division?
            F'n shiet! Comparison after comparison. Im a fan of both. But im F'n tired about that demands after demands. Why is that???????

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            • Bronx2245
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              #156
              Originally posted by Det. Conan
              F'n shiet! Comparison after comparison. Im a fan of both. But im F'n tired about that demands after demands. Why is that???????
              If you want to know why Floyd doesn't want to fight Manny, there's one answer...Arum. Floyd had to work for that man, and that man made a ton of money off him. He finally had to pay to get out of his contract to get Oscar, and after that his success skyrocketed. He tried to get the fight done twice. Forget the OST, which Manny should've taken, and just think about the last go round. The cuts, the stadiums, etc. Arum killed that fight. Floyd tried to get Manny to cut out his middle man (Arum), and Manny threw up his middle finger. Now Manny will never make that kind of money without Floyd. Floyd has already been in boxing history's 2 biggest events. He sells! It's now a matter of pride. Who's the master and whose the slave now? The fight is not between Floyd and Manny, it's between Floyd and Arum. The former master vs. the freed slave. It's not gonna happen, unless the former master becomes the slave, and it's gonna be painful. That's why the demands after demands, after demands.

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              • Det. Conan
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                #157
                Originally posted by Bronx2245
                If you want to know why Floyd doesn't want to fight Manny, there's one answer...Arum. Floyd had to work for that man, and that man made a ton of money off him. He finally had to pay to get out of his contract to get Oscar, and after that his success skyrocketed. He tried to get the fight done twice. Forget the OST, which Manny should've taken, and just think about the last go round. The cuts, the stadiums, etc. Arum killed that fight. Floyd tried to get Manny to cut out his middle man (Arum), and Manny threw up his middle finger. Now Manny will never make that kind of money without Floyd. Floyd has already been in boxing history's 2 biggest events. He sells! It's now a matter of pride. Who's the master and whose the slave now? The fight is not between Floyd and Manny, it's between Floyd and Arum. The former master vs. the freed slave. It's not gonna happen, unless the former master becomes the slave, and it's gonna be painful. That's why the demands after demands, after demands.
                Its F'n ego right? Its sad but I think its quite true. I got a feeling that Floyd likes Manny. I mean he secretly admiring him as a boxer & as person but hates Arum so much. I just hope their last fight is between each other.

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                • Divine Hammer
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                  #158
                  Originally posted by Bronx2245
                  So you agree that Bradley really won the first fight against Pacquiao, and the fight against Ruslan. It doesn't bother you that Ruslan had never fought @ 147, or that Marquez has never done anything @ 147. I guess that's where we differ. And now you also believe Algeri deserves a shot against Pacquiao. Algeri resume is worst than Broner's. Not only do you feel Algeri is worthy, you call Canelo overrated too! I guess we'll agree to disagree.
                  No I don't agree that bradley legitimately beat pac in the first fight. Where did you get this idea from?????And Marquez didn't do anything at 147? Uhh how about KO'ing pacquiao (a bigger win than anything your hero Floyd has ever done at 147)? Hahahahaha I'll say it again, you are very lost.

                  Beating top p4p'er slick Bradley trumps Floyd's wins against mediocre quitter Ortiz (who lost soon after to josesito), mediocre slow plodding no defense Guerrero, very green overrated only had one decent win canelo, slow moving no defense brawler maidana. Quality over quantity. Deal with it.
                  Last edited by Divine Hammer; 09-17-2014, 07:32 AM.

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                  • White_Knight
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                    #159
                    Originally posted by jayblack
                    So in Marquez' last 11 fights he fought 1 southpaw. Because you fight 1 guy multiple times doesn't mean you're fighting more than one southpaw. Just like Mayweather hasn't beaten 47 different fighters, he beat 45.
                    Casamayor, Pacquiao, and Ramos - this is 3 southpaw opponents in the last 11 fights.

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                    • Slick561
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                      #160
                      Originally posted by Divine Hammer
                      had to fix your biased post.
                      yet Manny and roach both said Mosley brought nothing to the table before he fought Floyd but yet decide to fight him after the lopsided loss to Floyd and then the ugly Draw with Mora

                      Bradley was a Junior Welt
                      Rios another Junior why cant he fight WW please explain
                      now he is fighting Algeri another Junior Lightweight who beat a hypejob in Provo who loss to bradley and beat C+ fighter in Alvarado

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